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Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
The New American ^ | 03/07.2003 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 04/18/2007 11:46:31 PM PDT by Verax

Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?

By William F. Jasper

Created 2007-03-07 18:33

In a 19-page affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City, convicted Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Lynn Nichols alleges that the bombing plot was actually under the supervision of top FBI officials. According to a February 21 report in Salt Lake City's Deseret News, the Nichols affidavit charges that Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for his role in the bombing, was actually working under Larry Potts, the controversial FBI official who was forced to resign under a cloud for his roles in two other major FBI scandals: the deadly FBI assaults on Ruby Ridge in 1992 and Waco in 1993. Terry Nichols is not a terribly credible witness: he's a mass murderer and he lied consistently through the OKC investigation, but his claims should not be dismissed outright.

As the assistant director in charge of criminal investigations at FBI headquarters, Larry Potts was the Washington-based manager of the 1992 operation against the Randy Weaver family near Ruby Ridge in remote northern Idaho. In that incredible and tragic operation, Randy Weaver's wife Vicki was shot in the head and killed by an FBI sniper, while holding her infant child. The Weavers' 14-year-old son Sammy was also killed, shot in the back by federal agents. Larry Potts was the FBI official who approved the illegal "license to kill" order that resulted in those deaths.

The FBI's infamous assault on the Branch Davidian church complex near Waco, Texas, left more than 80 people dead, including 22 children. Potts, again, played a key role, both in authorizing the use of deadly force against innocent civilians, and, later, in the campaign of lies and coverups aimed at thwarting congressional investigations into the deadly fiasco.

Larry Potts was also the FBI's man charged with overall supervisory responsibility for the Oklahoma City bombing investigation in 1995. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh, and Bob Ricks, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Oklahoma City office, Potts helped misdirect the OKC investigation, purposely steering investigators away from individuals who should have been considered top suspects as McVeigh's co-conspirators in the bombing plot.

One of the primary suspects who benefited from this misdirection was Andreas Strassmeir, a German national who was in the United States illegally and was serving as chief of security at the white separatist compound known as "Elohim City," in rural eastern Oklahoma. McVeigh's phone records show he called the compound on the same day that he called the Ryder truck agency to rent the vehicle used for the truck bomb.

According to the FBI's own documents, the witness at Elohim City who took the call said McVeigh was calling for Strassmeir. Elohim City was well-known as a hangout and hideout for the notorious Aryan Republican Army bank robbers, several of whom have turned out to be federal informants or agents provocateur.

Rather than arresting and questioning Strassmeir, the FBI allowed him to wander freely for eight months and then slip into Mexico before fleeing back to Germany. Andreas Strassmeir and McVeigh's connections to Elohim City have been subject of numerous reports in The New American's extensive and ongoing investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing. (See, for example, "Elohim, Terror, and Truth [0]" and "Undercover: The Howe Revelations [0]." The latter title refers to Carol Howe, an ATF informant who provided federal agents prior knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing.)

After Louis Freeh promoted Potts to be his top assistant, he was forced to demote and suspend him when congressional and Justice Department investigations revealed Potts' illegal activities in the Ruby Ridge and Waco operations. Was Potts "running" Strassmeir, McVeigh, and other OKC bombing suspects who were listed in the original federal indictment as "others unknown"? The answer to that question may be revealed when other sealed FBI documents on Elohim City, McVeigh, and Strassmeir are released.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: elohimcity; larrypotts; okc; oklahomacity; strassmeir; terrynichols; tinfoil
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To: BlackVeil
My own take on this is that there has been a huge coverup, and he had motives and connections that the public has no idea of.

Mostly muslim (surprise). There was a lot of ... stuff ... going on with the OKC case.  It was incredibly useful and convienient on several different fronts, from scrubbing Waco documents, to demonizing the term 'militia', and the right wing in general.

41 posted on 04/19/2007 6:12:44 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Verax

The fateful sound of black helicopters in the morning air.


42 posted on 04/19/2007 6:15:24 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: trumandogz
Was Horiuchi found not guilty of the murders at Ruby Ridge?

He was never convicted of murder, though he should have been. There was a lot of jurisdictional dancing between the state and federal courts, and ultimately the government protects its assasins.

We learned during the Clinton administration that it is perfectly legal for the government to kill anyone they desire, and there isn't a damned thing we can do about it.

43 posted on 04/19/2007 6:18:17 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: trumandogz

I like you. You’re not like the other people here
in the trailer park.


44 posted on 04/19/2007 6:24:31 AM PDT by itsamelman (?Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.? -- Al Swearengen)
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To: BlackVeil
But if McVeigh was an FBI agent, would not he have come out with that rather than face execution in silence?

McVeigh has been described by a former army buddy as a "solder's soldier" who would march straight off a cliff if directed by his superiors.

It could have been a sting gone bad, very bad. Clinton and the FBI tried to cover it up like TWA800.

45 posted on 04/19/2007 6:31:30 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: DJtex

I think I remember bomb experts in the days following the explosion, on TV talking about there was a bomb here, and another here, etc. Did I dream this, or does anyone else remember it?


46 posted on 04/19/2007 8:58:34 AM PDT by weezel
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To: DieHard the Hunter
A few points:

Several experts said that the blast force of that particular-sized explosive would have dissipated before taking out most of the critical steel-reinforced support beams.

During the rescue ops there were several successive bomb scares, including some pics of personnel removing fairly large canisters from the parking garage area. (Later the FBI said that these were probably “sample bombs” kept in the FBI office to know what they looked like).

Clinton’s ratings were in the toilet, a real malaise, until this galvanizing event. If it turned out to be an FBI sting operation, to suck in German/Iraqi terrorists to plant explosives, then Clinton’s boost would have disappeared.

So the entire building, and the detailed investigation of where the blast points were, got razed 3-4 days later “to save the American people the continuing pain of looking at the ruined building.”

47 posted on 04/19/2007 10:27:53 AM PDT by DJtex
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To: BlackVeil

Yeah he would have come out... unless he wasn’t actually executed. Lemme see, it went fast, and *I* never saw his body, have you? /sarc off


48 posted on 04/19/2007 11:09:53 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: trumandogz; stylecouncilor

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49 posted on 04/19/2007 11:25:09 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Nathan Zachary
"And the goverment has.."

Where do you get such outlandish ideas?

I suppose you think all conspiracies are figments of someone's imagination?

50 posted on 04/19/2007 11:31:47 AM PDT by Designer II
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To: BlackVeil
There are many serious and unexplained issues in this case.

But if McVeigh was an FBI agent, would not he have come out with that rather than face execution in silence?


Well one thing that always gives me pause is the fact that he was still breathing, according to a local reporter who was present for McVeigh's execution, when he was pronounced dead, coupled with the fact that they never did an autopsy ( standard procedure in executions for reasons I don't understand ) and AFAIK the body was never turned over to kin.

Not reaching any conclusions just saying that it puzzles me how a dead guy is still breathing at the end of an execution.....
51 posted on 04/21/2007 10:09:50 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

And China would never poison our pet products....

Comrade Clinton would never lie , or do anything immoral .....


52 posted on 04/21/2007 10:12:55 AM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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