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Group Plans To Picket Va. Tech Funerals (Phelps' Phreaks)
CBS News ^ | April 18, 2007 | David Miller

Posted on 04/18/2007 9:28:04 PM PDT by El Conservador

he families of those killed in the Virginia Tech massacre may not be able to grieve in peace at the funerals of those they lost. An anti-gay religious group known for protesting at the funerals of American soldiers killed in Iraq is planning on appearing at services for those killed on Monday as well.

The Topeka, Kan.-based Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), which is not affiliated with any national Baptist organization, announced plans to protest at victims’ funerals only hours after 32 people were killed in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. They also may protest at other events on the Virginia Tech campus.

The organization, founded and led by Fred Phelps, believes the United States has condemned itself to destruction by accepting homosexuality and other “sins of the flesh.” Phelps’ daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, said the Virginia Tech teachers and students who died on Monday brought their fate upon themselves by not being true Christians.

“The evidence is they were not Christian. God does not do that to his servants,” Phelps-Roper said. “You don’t need to look any further for evidence those people are in hell.”

Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech student responsible for the killings who took his own life after the shootings, was sent by God to punish those he killed, and America as a whole, for moral decline, said Phelps-Roper, while adding that she believes Cho is also in hell for violating God’s commandment to not kill.

“He is in hell,” Phelps-Roper said. “But he was also fulfilling the word of God.”

Because of its virulent anti-gay message and condemnation of Catholics, Jews and other groups, the WBC has been classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League.

Curtis Dahn, the president of Virginia Tech’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Alliance, said he reacted with immediate disgust upon hearing of the WBC's plans. “Thirty-three people are dead and they’re using people’s deaths and people’s grief to further their own agenda and it’s just disgusting,” he said.

Dahn was friends with Ryan Clark, a resident assistant in Ambler Johnson Hall, who was among the first people killed on Monday. He said he is working with other university leaders and officials to form a response to the WBC. Ideally, he said, the funerals will be nothing more than a chance for family and friends to mourn in peace.

“Part of it is that I don’t want the families to be affected by this at all,” he said. “I don’t even want the funerals’ locations to be public knowledge. I don’t want a protest, I don’t want a counter-protest. I want people to be able to grieve and have what they want, not be made into public displays and mockeries.”

Dahn and others may have the law on their side. In 2006, in response to protests at the funerals of dead U.S. soldiers, Virginia enacted a law that added funerals and memorial services to the state’s disorderly conduct statute. Other states have adopted similar measures to allow police to keep WBC protesters out of earshot.

By David Miller © MMVII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: fredphelps; phelps; vatech; vtech
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Oh, $#1+!!!

Not this idiot.

1 posted on 04/18/2007 9:28:06 PM PDT by El Conservador
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To: El Conservador

These folks need to be airlifted to Iran, dropped off from 30,0000 ft. sans ‘chutes.


2 posted on 04/18/2007 9:29:41 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: El Conservador
Every time I am reminded of these scum, I am surprised to no end that they are still alive.
3 posted on 04/18/2007 9:29:47 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (You "abort" bad missile launches and carrier landings. Not babies.)
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To: El Conservador

The guy is like a raging disease.


4 posted on 04/18/2007 9:30:05 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: El Conservador; StarCMC; Bethbg79; bentfeather; EsmeraldaA; MoJo2001; Kathy in Alaska; ...

PGR PING!!!!


5 posted on 04/18/2007 9:31:58 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: El Conservador

If ther is anyone in america more detestable than the libs, its these bozos.


6 posted on 04/18/2007 9:32:25 PM PDT by pissant
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To: SandRat

Methinks we need an all out fistfight.


7 posted on 04/18/2007 9:34:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: El Conservador

One of these days...


8 posted on 04/18/2007 9:35:35 PM PDT by Aikonaa
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To: El Conservador

Tar and feather time.


9 posted on 04/18/2007 9:41:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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Well, with any luck the rest of the world will have the chance to picket at *their* funerals, the sooner the better.


10 posted on 04/18/2007 9:41:54 PM PDT by xjcsa (The "average temperature" of the earth is as meaningful as the "average number" in a phone book.)
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To: Triggerhippie

I’ll be Rampmaster.


11 posted on 04/18/2007 9:44:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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“The evidence is they were not Christian. God does not do that to his servants,” Phelps-Roper said. “You don’t need to look any further for evidence those people are in hell.”

Gotta love that theology. If anything really bad happens to somebody, that proves they aren't Christian. I guess Christ must be burning in hell too . . .

Do you suppose if somebody finally got the gumption to take out Phred in a hail of bullets as he screams "God hates fags!" at the funeral of some fine young American, that the rest of the Phelpsians would decide Phred must not have been a "true Christian" after all?

12 posted on 04/18/2007 9:46:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: El Conservador

I sent this as FYI to O’Reilly. He’s not a fan, to say the least.


13 posted on 04/18/2007 9:59:21 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: El Conservador

“anti-gay religious group”. Actually they are a family cult of DEMOCRATS (Fred has run for office numerous times and WAS a pal of Al Gore).

They are against “the war” and for linking “religion and condemnation of homosexuality” together.


15 posted on 04/18/2007 10:01:01 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Does he have a remote compound that the ATF can raid?


16 posted on 04/18/2007 10:01:47 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: El Conservador

These people are like an outbreak of the bubonic plague in the middle of a malaria epidemic.


17 posted on 04/18/2007 10:02:02 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: El Conservador

They wouldn’t dare!!!!!!!


18 posted on 04/18/2007 10:02:37 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

When is someone going to have the guts to beat the crap out of the Phelpses?

If I were twenty years younger, I would volunteer.


19 posted on 04/18/2007 10:02:48 PM PDT by Palladin (My sympathies are extended to all the VT victims and their loved ones.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Fred isn’t a theologian. He is a Democrat bigot. His bigotry extends to racism, not just denouncing homosexuality.


20 posted on 04/18/2007 10:02:51 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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