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Gunman taken to mental health facility in 2005
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | 18.04.07

Posted on 04/18/2007 8:14:16 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares

It emerged today that at one stage students were so scared of his behaviour that only seven out of 70 turned up for class, forcing lecturers to give him one-to-one tuition.

One teacher even suggested today he was given A grades because he was so "intimidating and staff wanted to keep him happy".

Nikki Giovanni, who teaches poetry, said she threatened to resign if Cho was not taken out of her class. She said: "I think he liked the idea he was a scary guy. Some people like that. That is how they define themselves. Kids write about murder and suicide all the time. But there was something that made us all pay attention closely.

"Students absolutely would not come into class. They said, 'He is taking photographs of us. We don't know what he is doing. It is very strange'."

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cho; killer; massacre; mentalillness; psycho; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Names Ash Housewares
And MAN talk about liberalism madness, giving the guy A grades because they are scared of him???

It's no different thatn Pelosi making social calls to terrorist states.

101 posted on 04/18/2007 10:12:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: SolidWood

Yes it can.


102 posted on 04/18/2007 10:19:15 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Yes, after reading all this and some of the replies, I think I would’ve tried to have the little nut committed some time before he starting wasting people who had no idea who he was.


103 posted on 04/18/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Feel the love...)
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To: SolidWood

He wasn’t on a visa. He had a green card.


104 posted on 04/18/2007 10:50:19 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: pa mom

Thanks to your and several previous replies I got the right information.


105 posted on 04/18/2007 10:52:15 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: Jedidah

Excellent, a voice of reason.


106 posted on 04/18/2007 10:52:29 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: aShepard

You think he put “I want to kill people” in his essay?

Hearing an interview with members of his HS class, he seems to have been odd, not dangerous, to them. He probably had the grades and the test scores.

And Tech is not the hardest place to get into, especially outside of engineering. They accept 71% of applicants overall.


107 posted on 04/18/2007 10:57:13 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
This article also answers the question of why the university was not locked down after the first shooting. The police were focusing on the wrong guy, someone they already had in custody:

"Virginia State police spokesman Steve Flaherty said that on investigating the original shooting in the dormitory, the evidence led police to Emily Hilscher's boyfriend, Karl Thornhill, who had dropped her off that morning and who was known to love guns.

It was while police were questioning Karl Thornhill that reports of the second mass shooting at Norris Hall reached them."

108 posted on 04/18/2007 10:57:27 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: betsyross1776
I have read your posts for the last several days and appreciate them.

As I watched CNN last night, the interview with these 2 former roommates has me wondering. Did VT assign any other kids to be his roommate after 2005 when these 2 interviewers left?

109 posted on 04/18/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Colleges don’t just kick people out, except for grades or crimes. And he did not commit a crime (maybe the stalking—was he charged?).

One professor went to the police but since he hadn’t done anything, neither could they.


110 posted on 04/18/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

This is because school administrators have lost the chutzpah to stand up to unruly students. The PC madness has gone too far.


111 posted on 04/18/2007 11:00:27 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: SolidWood

Sorry, I should know better.

READ THE WHOLE THREAD. READ THE WHOLE THREAD. READ THE WHOLE THREAD.

Not quite 3 Hail Marys but will it do?


112 posted on 04/18/2007 11:01:28 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: Jedidah

“Soften up. Lay off these parents. They didn’t cause this, and it’s highly unlikely they could have prevented it.”
Let me quess, you probably have some warm fuzzy feelings about Bin Laden’s parents too.


113 posted on 04/18/2007 11:07:19 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: pa mom

IF they didnt pay tuition I bet they would have kicked them out pretty fast.


114 posted on 04/18/2007 11:44:41 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: RKV

“Add perjury to Cho’s list of crimes. When you buy a gun you are required to certify that you have “[n]ever been committed to a mental institution?” on ATF Form 4473. Cho lied and the dealer sold him the gun(s). Another damn law that ain’t gonna fix what’s broken here, except maybe one telling VT that it will respect the CCW laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia and allow concealed carry on campus.”

I think that rule only applies if he was involuntarily committed. In this case he voluntarily committed himself.


115 posted on 04/18/2007 1:33:57 PM PDT by Mila
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To: grasshopper2

“It’s ture. The department head verified it and stated that she,(the department head) was giving private tutoring to the Cho because of the professor’s objections to him.gunman.”

I believe the professor you refer to is Lucinda Roy director of creative writing in Virginia Tech’s English Department, not Nikki Giovanni.

http://onthescene.msnbc.com/vatech/2007/04/professor_says_.html


116 posted on 04/18/2007 1:49:20 PM PDT by Mila
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To: texastoo
I really don’t know .If you find out, please, let me know.Having seen this kid in our town and his family in church, I know how hurt this kids parents were when he died. The fact is if this shooter in VT did not want to sign himself in for help, the system would have let him go. The ACLU would have defended him ,even against his parents.The problem is the mental health providers are even over ridden by liberal judges. If he got two more roommates and they said he was ill in some way , the system would tell his new roommates to butt out. This is a failure of our mental health system because they are bound by the laws which really endanger ourselves. We saw what could happen in Monday’s attack on those kids.
117 posted on 04/18/2007 2:19:48 PM PDT by betsyross1776 (BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
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To: Mila

“A Virginia court found that Virginia Tech killer Seung-Hui Cho was “mentally ill” and potentially dangerous. Then the state let him go.” Sounds like he committed perjury to me.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3052278


118 posted on 04/18/2007 2:34:05 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: RKV
Everything costs money , it depends how and where you want to spend it. I would have spent a fortune to keep the shooter hospitalized if it would have prevented the trouble and dark cloud over VT today. However , there were signs this kid was sick. Everybody saw if they would have committed him maybe just maybe lives could have been saved. It is redundant now for it is past and we cannot change the past. But if one commitment saves someone in the future, I would be glad to see my tax dollars go where it counts instead of things like peanut storage.It is very sad we even have to discuss this matter at all, but if we don't we will never get answers and we have to ,because it may happen again. When the Texas tower occurred people thought it would never happen again. When Columbine happened , it was said this will never happen again, if we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.
119 posted on 04/18/2007 2:41:12 PM PDT by betsyross1776 (BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
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To: Graymatter

RIGHT!


120 posted on 04/18/2007 2:48:07 PM PDT by betsyross1776 (BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
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