Posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:47 AM PDT by TexasBud
One possible source of the gunman's reference to "Ismail Ax" on inside of his arm is... James Fenimore Cooper's The Prairie. Character Ishmael Bush had an axe. "And the axe, which created and transformed through destruction, clears the figurative way for the deflowering of the New World."
The axe is apparently both literal and symbolic, and references are made about the character's having moved from the east to the west, creating change through the destruction (using the axe), and the like. Just a possibility, esp. for someone who was an English major?
I agree on the ears.
Left picture seems like a “weak” chin. Hairline seems off.
I just don’t know.
There are things called e-mail correspondence, articles in libraries, articles on the Internet, etc.
Mark for later.
I don’t remember authorizing this low-life to use my screen name. Where’s my lawyer?
Based on the postings on that site the photo is from, people seem to be concluding it can’t be the same dude.
The chin, also, is too different - the guy on the right has a wider and more prominent chin, and not caused just by smiling
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Max2046 says:
It’s NOT the VTech killer. This guy is a computer major, and, according to the blog, dated Jul 5, 2006: “...sedang belajar bahasa Indonesia selama 2 bulan di WH. Setelah itu dia akan pergi ke Palembang untuk mengajar komputer di STM selama 2 tahun.”
Roughly translated: “currently studying the Indonesian language for 2 months at WH. After this he will go to Palembang to teach computer at STM for 2 years.”
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thalassamikra says:
It is very, very clear from both posts by Elda that this Seung Hoo (Seung Hoo mind you, not Seung Hui, which is the name of the VT killer) is from Korea, not from the US.
He only speaks Korean fluently, and speaks a little Bahasa Indonesia. He cannot speak English fluently. He came to Indonesia directly from South Korea, not via the US.
Hopefully people can move on now and stop harassing Elda just because her friend chose to call himself Ismail (the other Korean students chose other Indonesian names like Jian and Indra)
I worked with a guy from Taiwan and his American nickname was nothing like his Taiwanese name. He said when they began learning English in grade school (in Taiwan) the teacher gave them American names to use just going down the row (Allen, Bob, Betty, Jane, Chuck, etc.). His stuck!
Duh. Yes, I know that. What I don’t know, anymore than you do, is whether the name on his arm referred to THAT Ishmael or something else. The common assumption that it must is just, well, dumb.
The “Dr Ismail AK” from Turkey theory is possible, but frankly I find that a bit far-fetched, although not as far-fetched as the “Moby Dick” or “James Fenimore Cooper” theories.
We have no reason to believe that all of the police (and I’ll bet there would have been at least a few who took a look at the body and saw the words) misread “Ismail AK” to be “Ismail AX,” but it’s not inconceivable.
But why would he write it on his arm? If it was just a doctor he was communicating with by email or whose articles he was reading, that makes little sense.
I think the most likely explanation to my mind at this point in time is that it was his gamer ID and he put it on his arm as sort of an identity tattoo.
Or, maybe he had been flirting with islam and had taken that as his new name and put it on his arm as a sort of a brand.
If not that, maybe it was a newly-acquired computer password of some sort, and he wrote it on his arm to remember it, although it doesn’t seem like such a hard password to remember.
How many murderous nutcases were inspired by novels and movies?
http://www.lennon-chapman.com/new2.htm
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hinckley/HBIO.HTM
Cho Seung-Hui
Ishmael Bush (the effort to conquer nature through force)
http://www.academictermpapers.com/abstracts/15000/15045.html
It’s not an altogether unreasonable inference. The kid could have had anything he wanted tatooed on his arm. Why did he chose that? I think it is unreasonable to conclude he chose it completely at random. There may be other explanations, and there is the obvious one.
Doubt that the Iranians "poisoned" his mind, though. Just watching TV is enough these days.
If so, google "Spartacus League" up for a grand tinfoil time.
lived in the US since he was 8...
Thanks, useful and interesting.
Whenever I read
a Cezanne biography
that talks about Aix,
they never say how
to pronounce the name. I've read
dozens of books and
sometimes it makes me
so mad I want to grab my
gun... Wait... I'm okay . . .
Can anyone tell my why FOX is using the spelling “Ismail?”
Did you catch the latest? A. Ishmael listed on the return address on the package sent to NBC.
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