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Killer's Note: 'You Caused Me to Do This'
ABC News ^ | 4/17/07

Posted on 04/17/2007 9:51:27 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: spunkets

Thanks,
I’ve been reading (or attempting to read) that.


221 posted on 04/17/2007 12:57:46 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: areafiftyone

“The man” was keeping him down, I see. here he had two parents who worked their butt’s off so he and his sister could attend some of the best school’s around.


222 posted on 04/17/2007 12:58:59 PM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: najida

I guess I’m off the Christmas card list, too. Damn.


223 posted on 04/17/2007 12:59:07 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

They are going to stick w/the jilted lover Columbine II story because it is the most PC. To think otherwise would destroy thier belief that guns were the cause.

It looks more like her death was a diversion for the bigger killing.

Pray for W and Our Troops


224 posted on 04/17/2007 12:59:51 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: XeniaSt; bpjam; Sans-Culotte; nonsporting
Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about research on patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc. "As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . ."
225 posted on 04/17/2007 1:00:05 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (You've got Ismail!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

And this year I was sending out Shortbreads!


226 posted on 04/17/2007 1:00:11 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: najida

Shortbread solstice cookies? Oh, don’t make me beg...


227 posted on 04/17/2007 1:04:43 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Real butter, real sugar and flour from scratch cookies. Make them every year by hand, myself.


228 posted on 04/17/2007 1:06:43 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I agree, like you and many others here, my first question was indeed "Is this terrorism?" Obviously, prior to any of the details being released, many people began to wonder whether this was another Islam-related incident. That is a common reaction, and something that should definitely be followed up on.

However, after news began to emerge regarding the shooting, some details came to light. For example, the shooter was described as an Asian male. Many people then began to wonder -- "Well, what type of Asian? Could this mean Middle Eastern? Is this the media's way of hiding this fact?" Though a bit of a stretch, even then, I still felt it possible that Asian = Middle Eastern, though I personally felt that to be a bit unlikely. But possible, yes.

Now, hours later, we learn the name, we see his picture, we realize more details of his life. The Islam factor now seems extremely unlikely ... though actual proof may come about later. Suddenly, a reference on his arm to "Ismail Ax" (sp?) means that he was making an Islamic reference. Taking this one reference and making it the crux of the argument that religion was a motivating factor rather than seeing the "in-your-face" evidence that there was undoubtedly something else wrong with the guy -- as can be seen in the play he wrote -- is just plain ludicrous.

Personally, I don't know what the reference means. Moby Dick, Islam, World of Warcraft, etc. Who knows. But to keep pushing for this to somehow be related to Islam seems a stretch.

And nobody is saying that Islam's connection with terrorism isn't a problem we face today. I'm simply saying that this incident is likely not connected. That's it.

229 posted on 04/17/2007 1:11:53 PM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Thank you for posting those references. This is indeed a bizarre case and getting more bizarre with each day, so far.


230 posted on 04/17/2007 1:17:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
"I’m not sure about the ‘blown open door’ part, because as a rule of thumb you wouldn’t use an explosive for a breach. Usually it’s a ram or a halligan or just brute force."

I don't think they used explosives either. That would take some material htey don't have and to be properly applied. The door was chained though, was a fire door of substantial strength and the bar openers are substantial. Busting that door open would have been very loud. They may have had to use a vehicle. I just used, blown open in a generic sence. Certainly a flash bang could not blow open the door, unless they could "tamp" it with something. That something would probably look like a vehicle, so why not just drive though.

Since you saw the video and the rush, and didn't note anything about the breech, maybe a bunch of the did a coordinated hit on the door. The door breaking and lever ripping out would have been quite loud. ANother concern is that the mic only has a certain amplitude limit, so even though a gunshot in the hallway is painfully loud, it would be recorded that way. It would just be the recording of a max amplitude response at the gunshot frequency, which would be higher than that of the door popping. The door popping could also be recorded at the max amplitude the device is capable of.

231 posted on 04/17/2007 1:18:32 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: areafiftyone

So, who the hell is this “you?”


232 posted on 04/17/2007 1:23:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Feel the love...)
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To: Spiff
I thought of that too. Nothing jumps out at me at the anagram generator I use. Here's a few interesting ones:

ALIAS MIX
SALAMI XI
ALAS I MIX
MAIL AXIS
AXIS MAIL
I ISLAM AX
SAIL MAXI

I suggested that the word ISLAM should be included and got:

ISLAM A XI
ISLAM AX I

I then narrowed it down to the obvious "I AM .......", but I still don't get anything that makes sense.

I AM LA SIX
I AM LA XIS
I AM LAS XI
I AM LAX IS

Salami Eleven?!! Its all starting to make sense now.

233 posted on 04/17/2007 1:27:11 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (I really dont know what I want to put here.)
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To: XeniaSt; bpjam; Sans-Culotte; nonsporting; MHGinTN
Dr. Ismail Ak is apparently one of the world's leading experts on the psychiatry of antisocial and suicidal behavior, psychotic and bipolar disorders, psychoparmacological therapy, etc.

The young man had been noticed to be disturbed and had been referred to counseling. Dr. Ismail Ak is an expert and author in the particular field most directly related to the guy's disorder.

So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said, ISMAIL AK, and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said, ISMAIL AX. That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism.

(See my other posts on this line of inquiry: 210, 214, 225)

234 posted on 04/17/2007 1:30:36 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (You've got Ismail!)
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To: najida

I’ve been on the Rudy threads. I don’t hang around very long because I’m afraid I’d catch myself indulging in my pet peeve...calling people names because of their opinions (Geraldo Rivera is exempt).

I love to read FReeper opinions even if I don’t agree and some of them make me downright furious. Sometimes I comment, but mostly I don’t because the bottom line is, it’s just somebody’s opinion. I have to remind myself of that a lot.


235 posted on 04/17/2007 1:30:52 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
So much for the efficacy of Virginia's one-gun per month law...

Well, the first one was bought in March and the second would have been bought in April.  That's one per month.

Or is the law one gun in any 30 day period?  If that's the case then the description "one-gun per month" is misleading.

236 posted on 04/17/2007 1:35:00 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: CougarGA7
Salami Eleven?!! Its all starting to make sense now.

I thought so too. < /sarcasm>

237 posted on 04/17/2007 1:38:39 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: spunkets
The guy IDed the killer by name and noted he had a green card. That name wasn't released until today.

The fact that the killer had a green card and not a student visa was mentioned in that thread too - well in advance of the media reporting that fact. The gunshop guy's posts appear to be legit, particularly in light of that website having gone dark.

Kinda makes one wonder what might've happened if said gun dealer had frequented FreeRepublic and posted that information here first.

238 posted on 04/17/2007 1:38:57 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: spunkets

Good points all.


239 posted on 04/17/2007 1:39:28 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Charles Henrickson

A bright young man might be looking into the latest work in a disorder he may have been diagnosed with ...


240 posted on 04/17/2007 1:40:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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