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Va. Tech Gunman Named [Murderer Identified]
The Washington Post ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter

Va. Tech Gunman Named

By Michael Shear and Debbi Wilgoren Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 9:36 AM

Virginia Tech officials today identified the Virginia Tech student who killed 32 people and then himself on the Blacksburg campus yesterday as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui of Centreville.

Cho was a South Korean native who had immigrated to this country, the university announced on its Web site this morning. He was a senior majoring in English, and lived in a dorm on campus, officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: vatech; vtech; vtmuders
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To: pa mom

True. No way to predict this. There was also this guy in Minnesota (Cambodian?) who shot down innocent people. We should cut down on the number of immigrants.


181 posted on 04/17/2007 8:03:26 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
One thing is for certain, those people were still able to move and dodge his aim.

They were THEORETICALLY able to dodge, whether they actually did so is another question. A lot of people probably froze.

That accuracy with handguns isn't nearly as high in real life as it is in the movies or on TV is a valid point, but in this specific instance again the claim that you really need extraordinary training to accomplish this doesn't seem valid to me.

182 posted on 04/17/2007 8:03:37 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: STARWISE

Resident alien needs 90 days, not one year, to buy a firearm.

The gunstore-owner comments originally appeared on www.black-rifles.com, which has been down for a few hours now.


183 posted on 04/17/2007 8:03:45 AM PDT by angkor
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Agreed. What disturbs me, in this case and in others, is the apparent DESIRE for it to be terrorism. The utter glee some get from finding obscure crumbs and linking them to terrorism in rather fantastic ways. I hate to see our important fight marginalized by some spurious comments.


184 posted on 04/17/2007 8:04:49 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: IrishRainy
And where and when did he learn to shoot so accurately in the month since he bought the gun?

I haven't seen any definitive reports yet on how close he was to his victims, but it's not that hard to hit a person-sized target from only a few feet away.

185 posted on 04/17/2007 8:04:51 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: Badeye

You have made the best point I’ve heard. Prayers for the victim and I’m not blaming them but where has bravery gone? Why did they just stand there like sheep?


186 posted on 04/17/2007 8:05:37 AM PDT by TrishaSC (LB: I told ya so!!!)
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To: pa mom

The police department at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University on Tuesday morning identified the gunman who killed at least 30 people Monday as Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old undergraduate senior majoring in English.

Cho, who is thought to have killed himself at the end of the shooting rampage in Norris Hall, was a South Korean national and resident alien from Centreville, Va., about 30 miles west of Washington, D.C. in Fairfax County and adjacent to Dulles Airport and the Manassas Civil War battlefields.

Police said at least one of the two pistols found with Cho’s body was also used in the killings of a man and a woman, also both undergraduates, in the West Ambler Johnston residence hall earlier Monday morning.

“It’s certainly reasonable to assume that Cho was the shooter in both cases,” said Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police.

Flaherty stressed that authorities had not firmly established the links betweent the two incidents.

Cho himself was a resident of Harper Hall, another on-campus residence hall. South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said he had moved to the United States as a child but maintained his Korean citizenship.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266523,00.html


187 posted on 04/17/2007 8:05:48 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Albert Barr

Last night I yelled at the TV and turned it off after Greta Van Spitoon said “worste school shooting ever” for the 300th time. Geraldo was pissing me off too. Also, the fact that Geraldo, Spitoon, and that other fruitcake were only 100 yards away from each other and kept cutting back and forth to have a conversation was annoying. Why couldn’t they all be in the same room. Why have one on the drillfield, one in Burrus Hall and one at the Hotel. I kept waiting for them to get a response from Howard K Stern.

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The worst was Lou Dobbs. After a reporter carefully explained the reasons for the decision not to warn and/or to lock down or otherwise secure the campus after the first shooting, Dobbs had to say something like, “this is a decision they will regret.” Gee, thanks, Dobbs. And I suppose if you had been in charge, given what you knew at the time, would you have made a different decision?

I used to like Dobbs, but he’s become a full-time shill for the liberal socialists crybabies and anti-American to boot.


188 posted on 04/17/2007 8:06:05 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Gopher Broke

The guy’s “last name” is Cho. Not Hui. For Koreans, their first name is the family name.


189 posted on 04/17/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I finally see the dawn arrivin' I see beyond the road I'm drivin' Far away and left behind)
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To: pa mom

It’s actually less scary if it’s terrorism. Same way it’s less scary to people if Katrina was caused by global warming or if the Asian tsunami was caused by a nuclear test.

Counterintuitive but nothing scares people more than RANDOM evil. Giving it a narrative and purpose and specific cause allows people to manage their fear.


190 posted on 04/17/2007 8:06:50 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: dmz

You mean...some FReepers are conspiracy minded?

Nah.


191 posted on 04/17/2007 8:08:20 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I finally see the dawn arrivin' I see beyond the road I'm drivin' Far away and left behind)
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To: Strategerist
We have to have SOMETHING to blame! Something.

When there is nothing to blame, or what is to blame is totally unpredictable and uncontrollable, that is true terror.

192 posted on 04/17/2007 8:08:56 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: Republican Party Reptile; PSYCHO-FREEP; Strategerist

It doesn’t take a trained marksman to shoot people at nearly point-blank range, which is what happened here.


193 posted on 04/17/2007 8:09:34 AM PDT by angkor
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To: apocalypto

Hee Hee! Good one. You are right. Stopping immigration won’t stop shootings. Some things you just can’t predict or prevent. That’s why the gun control falasy is so attractive to people—the desire to prevent anything bad from happening.

Even if there had been someone armed there (and I wish there were, or someone who would have tried to take him down with a chair, a well-aimed cell phone to the crotch . . .) who was armed, he could only have stopped the guy in the act, not prevented it.


194 posted on 04/17/2007 8:09:35 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thanks—good update. I’m from near Centerville myself.


195 posted on 04/17/2007 8:11:18 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Strategerist

Good analysis.


196 posted on 04/17/2007 8:12:44 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Gopher Broke; VRWCTexan

“One of the witnessess in the classroom said that he changed clips on his gun quickly”

One that I heard was laying on the floor and said the same thing, that the only thing he “saw” was “the case” (he didn’t call it a “clip”) hitting the floor, then the shooter pulled another “case” from his pocket and was reloaded in 2-3 seconds.


197 posted on 04/17/2007 8:14:10 AM PDT by angkor
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To: dmz

Hmm. I’m not saying there’s anything inherently nefarious about it . . . I guess that degree of packratism is just foreign to me.


198 posted on 04/17/2007 8:14:35 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Ping


199 posted on 04/17/2007 8:15:11 AM PDT by GoldwaterChick (Never give in, never give in, never, never, never give in. Winston Churchill Oct. 29, 1941)
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To: All

“He was a loner, and we’re having difficulty finding information about him,” school spokesman Larry Hincker said.

From another thread—who would have guessed?


200 posted on 04/17/2007 8:15:25 AM PDT by pa mom
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