Posted on 04/17/2007 3:41:01 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
...the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. By 2050 the Latin population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. It's the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country - over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Social workers in Southern California... are in despair over the epidemic of single parenting. Not only has illegitimacy become perfectly acceptable, they say, but so has the welfare and social services to cope with it. Dr. Ana Sanchez delivers babies at St. Joseph's Hospital in Orange, California, many of them to Hispanic teenagers. To her dismay, they view having a child at that age as normal. Alot of grandmothers are single as well; they never married, or they had successive relationships. "We're seeing 13-and 14-year old fathers," says Kathleen Collins, vice president of health education. ...the prevalence of single parenting among Hispanics is producing the inevitable slide into the welfare system. Hispanics now dominate the federal Women, Infants, and Children free food program; Hispanic enrollment grew more that 25% from 1996 to 2002, while black enrollment dropped 12% and white enrollment dropped 6.5%. A case manager at a program for pregnant homeless women in Orange observes, "I'll have women in my office on their fifth child, when the others have already been placed in foster care. There's nothing shameful about having multiple children that you can't care for and to be pregnant again, because, then you can blame the system."
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A logical guess based on what? Your intimate knowledge of abortion attitudes among Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos? What?
And from the 1920’s to the 1960’s the US shut down the immigration spigot. So, all those immigrants were able to be assimilated, Raise their economic staturs and we developed a stable national idendity, and prospered.
This WILL NOT happen as long as we allow an unchecked invasion from overseas to continue. THAT’s the big differnce.
We didn’t share a border with Ireland, nor is Ireland a hostile foreign country in which its citizens are taught to hate and resent the USA for stealing “their land”. Nor is there as a result an Irish equivalent of Atzlan or La Raza. There is NO COMPARISON to be made by a sane person between the 19th century Irish and the 20th/21st centuries Mexicans.
No.
Our immigration laws are broken.
I'm saying that we should have millions of immigrants from Mexico, but that we should decide which ones we let in.
The current debate seems to be between advocates of mass deportation and advocates of no deportation.
At least those "unwashed Irish" 100 years ago spoke the English language, and had observed the law getting here in the first place.
Plenty of those Irish spoke little to no English, and there was no law about getting here at that time. You just showed up.
And from the 1920’s to the 1960’s the US shut down the immigration spigot. So, all those immigrants were able to be assimilated, Raise their economic status and we developed a stable national identity, and prospered.
This WILL NOT happen as long as we allow an unchecked invasion from overseas to continue. THAT’s the big difference.
Uh-huh.
So, all those immigrants were able to be assimilated
So the Irish of the 1847 famine weren't assimilated until 1968 or so?
This WILL NOT happen as long as we allow an unchecked invasion from overseas to continue.
As usual, you guys are clueless as to what actually constitutes an invasion. Ask a Pole what an invasion is.
Oolong is going for 27 yuan a pound in Beijing right now.
nor is Ireland a hostile foreign country in which its citizens are taught to hate and resent the USA for stealing “their land”.
Mexico is an ally of the United States, a trading partner of the United States and it is to be expected that Mexico has its own viewpoint about the war it instigated with the United States 150 years ago.
Mexicans are not taught to hate America any more than Americans are taught to hate Japan.
Nor is there as a result an Irish equivalent of Atzlan or La Raza.
There is and was an Irish mafia. There are and have been IRA sympathizers and fundraisers here too.
I'm all for expelling terrorist sympathizers and criminals of any ethnicity.
There is NO COMPARISON to be made by a sane person between the 19th century Irish and the 20th/21st centuries Mexicans.
LOL! That's right - anyone who disagrees with you in your sovereign wisdom must be mentally ill, right?
The paranoid reaction to the Irish in the 19th century is identical to the paranoid reaction to the Mexicans in the 21st.
Those of us who are not caught up in the mass hysteria and refuse to share your fixations have our reasons for refusing to participate: Mexico can be a source for millions of young, hardworking, enterprising Christian immigrants, the kind of vital ing=fusion that has kept America young and adventurous.
The current system is broken and needs to be fixed, but at the end of the day America should have at least 10 million new Mexican citizens. It's good for America.
Being part of an “UNDERCLASS” is purely voluntary...........
And with Arnold offering all the children “free” medical care it won’t be long before his Caleefornia is Mexifornia. That’s a perfect example of the sort of politician who’s completely oblivious to what’s happening to this country.
No. The Italians and Russians and etc from the “Great Wave”.
It generally takes 2 generations to assimilate. That’s when you DON’T have policies intended to intentionally PREVENT immigration. To get a clue read Victor David hansen’s “Mexifornia”.
Invasions come in many flavors not just Panzer armies. Maybe if you knew a little history. Like say the movement of the Goths into the Roman empire. Ask a Native American about “immigration policy” and invasions.
I don’t think we can compare the Irish to the Hispanics. They, like most immigrants then, were part of a common European culture and saw America as a land of opportunity. They wanted to become assimilated and work hard to be productive and successful. And they did. All newly arrived immigrant groups had some initial difficulties. It may have been language or various other cultural things. But they all wanted to adapt to American ways. They didn’t form a cultural underclass and expect our society to change for them. Chinese and other Asians are good examples. Few immigrants faced greater difficulties than they. But they succeeded extremely well in becoming an asset to our nation.
No. The Italians and Russians and etc from the “Great Wave”.
It generally takes 2 generations to assimilate. That’s when you DON’T have policies intended to intentionally PREVENT assimilation. To get a clue read Victor David hansen’s “Mexifornia”.
Invasions come in many flavors not just Panzer armies. Maybe if you knew a little history. Like say the movement of the Goths into the Roman empire. Ask a Native American about “immigration policy” and invasions.
Forget about the political consequences. It means that the US will slide into Third World status. Since 1970, the population of the US has increased by 100 million, since 1990, 53 million, and since 2000, 20 million. According to the Census Bureau we will have a population of 364 million by 2030 and over 400 million by 2050. By 2050, 1/4 of the US will be Hispanic. 3/4 of the population increase can be attributed to immingration, legal and illegal.
Luckily for me, I have infinitely greater knowledge of history than you have of manners.
Like say the movement of the Goths into the Roman empire.
Like say the movement of the Goths into the Roman empire.
Unlike the mass immigration of Mexicans into the US, the Goths were actual invaders who raised armies and captured territory, while taking prisoners of war and sacrificing them to their gods.
I don't remember any Mexican army seizing Los Angeles, burning down all the major buildings, sacrificing the city council to Quetzacoatl and using the Hollywood Bowl as a holding pen/venue to auction off enslaved Anglos.
Nor do I remember from the Actibus Getarum the Goths entering Byzantium or Rome one by one or family by family and hiring themselves out to hang sheetrock or trim hedges for the Romans.
Ask a Native American about “immigration policy” and invasions.
Again you compare an actual military invasion with immigration.
You simply emphasize how unclear you are on the concept.
How so, oh deeply enlightened one?
The only way this can be real logic is if you intentionally dumb yourself down.
Translation: Shuck04 lacks the mental resources to address the argument himself, so he pretends that it's other people who are stupid.
Thanks for playing, S04!
You left off the sarcasm tag. What is happening today is unprecedented in our history. Legal immigration alone in the 1990s likely matched or exceeded the previous historical peak decade of 1901-1910, when 8.8 million legal immigrants were admitted. Adding the settlement of illegal aliens makes the 1990s without doubt the period of greatest immigration in America's history.
During the 1990s, an average of more than 1.3 million immigrants — legal and illegal — settled in the United States each year. Between January 2000 and March 2002, 3.3 million additional immigrants have arrived. In less than 50 years, the U.S. Census Bureau projects that immigration will cause the population of the United States to increase from its present 301 million to more than 400 million.
The foreign-born population of the United States is currently 33.1 million, equal to 11.5 percent of the U.S. population. Of this total, the Census Bureau estimates 8-9 million are illegal immigrants. Other estimates indicate a considerably higher number of illegal immigrants.
Approximately 1 million people receive permanent residency annually. In addition, the Census Bureau estimates a net increase of 500,000 illegal immigrants annually.
The present level of immigration is significantly higher than the average historical level of immigration. This flow may be attributed, in part, to the extraordinary broadening of U.S. immigration policy in 1965. Since 1970, more than 30 million legal and illegal immigrants have settled in the U.S., representing more than one-third of all people ever to come to America's shores.
At the peak of the Great Wave of immigration in 1910, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. was less than half of what it is today, though the percentage of the population was slightly higher. The annual arrival of 1.5 million legal and illegal immigrants, coupled with 750,000 annual births to immigrant women, is the determinate factor— or three-fourths— of all U.S. population growth.
Surely, you are joking. As a descendent of Irish immigrants, you are incorrect.
No, that's the way the comprehensive immigration reform [read amnesty] folks like to frame the debate. The first thing that needs to be done is to secure our borders, including visa overstays. We also must enforce our existing immigration laws. There is no urgency in determing what should be done with the 12 to 20 million illegals already here. We need more data on them in order to make good public policy.
In no scenario, should they be rewarded with US citizenship after breaking our laws.
No the Goths were actually trying to enter the Empire in search of land and to live under the protection of the Empire as they were being presurred by other groups migrating from the East. They petioned the emperor Valens who allowed them to cross and enter the borders of the empire, who agreed to allow them entry. Later, Valens changed his mind, refused to give them the promised land and food, and decided to force them out. THEN the Goths revolted and began to war on the Romans.
As to my manners. YOU started with the snotty comments. If you can’t take it don’t dish it.
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