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Did anyone fight back?
4-16-2007 | hophead

Posted on 04/16/2007 4:15:22 PM PDT by hophead

Did anyone fight back?

I hope there are some stories we will not hear because those who tried to fight back are now dead. I believe there were some heros here. I hope to hear someone say that without so and so, I would be dead. Is it wrong to ask this question? I think, of 30 or so killed. Could they all have been by themselves, with no one around? As far as we know, it was 1 person doing the shooting.

Have our college campuses become too pacified? I know not many college students want to protect their own country, but they are so fricking pacified to the extent that they will not even fight for their own lives? It is an issue that needs to be discussed.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; gunfreezone; unarmedvictims; wherewerethecops
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1 posted on 04/16/2007 4:15:23 PM PDT by hophead
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To: hophead

How the devil did he get so many people without someone noticing?


2 posted on 04/16/2007 4:17:44 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: hophead

I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. Initial report was he was lining people, seems like they could have turned on him if the numbers were right.


3 posted on 04/16/2007 4:17:58 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Make your Red State a Fred State!)
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Well you would hope in Virginia there would be some who know fighting.....


4 posted on 04/16/2007 4:18:00 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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There were reports earlier today on the news that students barricated their doors while this guy was shooting through the door to get in, so I think it a little early and very wrong of you to be calling these victims pacified.


5 posted on 04/16/2007 4:20:13 PM PDT by migjig (Nobody has more guts than our soldiers!)
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To: hophead; franky1
Only thing I have seen so far.

from another messageboard : BigWinner810 : 4/16/07 3:45 PM on another message board: This just in from my fraternity listserv: “Zach Petkewicz just got back and he told us his story. he can tell you the details better but he deserves to be recognized immediately. He was in norris hall and heard the gunshots coming from down the hall. while others hid in the class room zach got up and got a few others to help him baracade the door with desks. He could hear the gunman coming down the hall opening doors and firing into class rooms. Zach then saw his door handle turn and the gun man tried to get in but zach jumped up and slammed the door back shut and got on the ground holding the door shut with desks and a few others ran to help him. zach then said he heard the the gunman reloading a new magazine then fired two shots directly through the door but didnt hit anybody. He gave up and continued down the hall.” me: mother of god David: that guy saved a bunch of lives me: yeah Sent at 3:43 PM on Monday

2,065 posted on 04/16/2007 5:03:45 PM EDT by franky1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818131/posts?page=2093#2065

6 posted on 04/16/2007 4:20:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: hophead
Have our college campuses become too pacified? I know not many college students want to protect their own country, but they are so fricking pacified to the extent that they will not even fight for their own lives? It is an issue that needs to be discussed.

Perhaps it should be discussed eventually, but not until we know the details of what happened.

7 posted on 04/16/2007 4:20:26 PM PDT by Logophile
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How the devil did he get so many people without someone noticing?

That's what happens in a "gun free zone".

8 posted on 04/16/2007 4:21:25 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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You’ve got a bunch of scared kids who have been taught their whole lives that the path of least resistance is the likliest way to come out of these situation alive. Pack them together on a college campus and let loose a madman whose only goal is to kill and you’ve got VA Tech.


9 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:11 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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The bubbleheads in charge have villified any forms of self defense, particularly guns, so much that schools are a perfect soft target. I think that you could expect more resistance at a nursing home.

Only one of these types of attacks has been stopped in progress, at a lawschool where a woman (I believe) got her handgun from her car and shot back.

10 posted on 04/16/2007 4:22:42 PM PDT by pfflier
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“wrong of you to be calling these victims pacified.”

Here we go. Another person who attributes statements to someone that were not stated. Did I CALL ANYONE pacified?
Or, did I ASK if they were?


11 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:11 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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It’s hard to fight back when you have a psycho with two 9 millimeters firing at will. Fists don’t work against lead. I’m trying to figure out how he wandered around the campus for two hours after the first shooting. Ridiculous.


12 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:39 PM PDT by WillT
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Its way too early to make any assumptions.

ESPECIALLY based on press reports. My guess is there will be a lot of heroes in the end. And some not as much. Just like any horrible event.

13 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:26 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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There were heroes.

They just needed one with a gun.


14 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:28 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: hophead

Oh...as exhibit A: Katrina (they’re all raping and killing in the dome) News Coverage.


15 posted on 04/16/2007 4:25:32 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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I was wondering the same thing this afternoon. Lined up in the hallway and shot dead. Were there not a few good men to rush the gunman and overpower him? I remember the LI railway shooting where people cowered in their seats while the gunman reloaded several times to continue his rampage. I thought that after 9-11, citizens everywhere would fight back. I’m sorry that they did not. My prayers go out to the Hokie family and all who are grieving this senseless loss.


16 posted on 04/16/2007 4:27:35 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: freekitty

Probably because no one was packing. What can an unarmed person do against a gun?


17 posted on 04/16/2007 4:28:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: hophead

Something I posted to another FR article earlier today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1818327/posts?page=7#7

Granted, it was a bit of a rant out of frustration. As news from inside Norris Hall is beginning to filter out, there are at least some reports of students barricading themselves in their classrooms, etc.

Still, there are the others ... what made them so passive in such numbers?


18 posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:55 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: metmom

That all depends on the person.


19 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:54 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: metmom

Die trying.


20 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:07 PM PDT by Imgr8t
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