Rudy must be stopped

World Net Daily ^ | 4/16/07 | Joseph Farah

[Ol' Sparky]

Rudy must be stopped

By Joseph Farah

In case you hadn't noticed, Rudy Giuliani is leading all the polls in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

This is scary to me.Given the likelihood of Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic nomination, Americans like me would have no choice. We'd be completely disfranchised from the presidential election. We would be morally prevented from voting for either major party candidate.

The good news is there's still time to stop Rudy.

My objections to Rudy are hardly confined to the issue of abortion. In fact, besides our shared passion for the New York Yankees, I can think of precious little on which I agree with Giuliani. But let's examine his extreme position in favor of killing unborn babies for any and every reason imaginable.

Giuliani began his campaign for the presidency by attempting to moderate his position on the life issue. He told nationally syndicated radio host Sean Hannity he favored parental consent laws, he opposed public funding of abortion, he opposed partial-birth abortion, he favored the appointment of strict constructionists to the U.S. Supreme Court.

All of this was meant to tickle the ears of soft-headed Republicans. It was meant to portray Giuliani as something other than an extremist, a zealot, the same so-called "Republican" who refused to support a moderate Republican candidate for governor of New York in favor of Mario Cuomo.

Giuliani even suggested his positions on the abortion issue had been consistent all along – that he was not modifying his stances in an effort to attract pro-life voters.

But, in this age of the Internet, there is just no hiding past positions on issues.

Indeed, Rudy has been consistent – consistently pro-abortion.

While saying he is personally opposed to abortion and thinks we should discourage it, he advocates every imaginable incentive for women to have them – discouraging laws requiring women to see ultra-sound images of their in utero babies before crushing their skulls, discouraging any cut in taxpayer funding of abortions and describing this hideous, abominable procedure as a "constitutional right."

I don't believe Rudy Giuliani is really personally opposed to abortion. I don't think he cares a whit about unborn babies. And, even if I am misjudging his heart, it really doesn't matter what he thinks. What matters is what he does, how he acts.

What would you think of someone who said he personally opposed slavery, would never own a slave himself, but fought fervently for the right of others to own slaves.

Would you believe that person is really opposed to slavery? Would you care that he was "personally opposed"? Would you grasp that this person was trying to have it both ways on one of the most crucial moral issues men can possibly ever face?

Here's what Giuliani said in 2000 on he subject of banning partial-birth abortions: "I would vote to preserve the option for women."

I believe that was the real Giuliani. That was a reflection of his heart and mind on this issue. He would preserve the option for women to kill their babies even at the very moment of delivery – when the child is "viable" in every sense of the word. This is a position even more extreme than the one taken by the muddled thinkers who gave us Roe v. Wade.

This is why I can never, under any circumstances, cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani as president, no matter whom he is running against.

He's unfit. He's immoral. He's got no standard of right and wrong guiding him. His positions are indecent, disgusting and abominable.

If he can't be trusted on a relatively simple issue of life and death, he can't be trusted on anything in my book.

We still have time to ensure that we have a real presidential contest in 2008. We still have time to ensure that Republicans offer us an alternative to Hillary Clinton in 2008. We still have time to find an alternative to Rudy Giuliani in 2008.

Let's get busy. We've got our work cut out for us. It's time to jump off this Giuliani bandwagon.

Take the pledge with me: "Under no circumstances will I cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani as president, no matter whom he is running against."

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Farah's a loon.

Ah yes, a nice ad-hominem attack, when you can't debate the argument.

[Teacher317]

I want whichever candidate is going to prosecute the War on Terror. I can overlook anything else we disagree about.

Basically, that's W... he surely hasn't been very strong on much domestically for the last few years. I was hoping for better.

[onyx]

FGS! Can you possible be more short sighted?

Think Commander in Chief.

“IF” Guiliani is the only one standing between Hillary and the White House he gets my vote. Our military does NOT deserve Hillary or any other damn cut and run democrat.

I will vote for the GOP nominee regradless.

[chesley]

Unfortunately for your thesis, the WOT is not the only issue. Immigration is actually a bigger security issue, IMO, and abortion just a big a moral one.

And, even with a R president, such a Rudy, the WOT will be lost if we can’t kick the Dhimmis out of Congress.

Tancredo/Thompson

[gpapa]

Just like these other “nuts” who are columnists at WND?

Michael Ackley
Vox Day
Chuck Norris
Doug Powers
Ellen Ratner
Barbara Simpson
Craig R. Smith
Pat Buchanan
Janet Folger
Les Kinsolving
David Limbaugh
Mychal Massie
Dennis Prager
Dave Ramsey
Jim Rutz
Ann Coulter
Maralyn Lois Polak
Burt Prelutsky
Judge Roy Moore
Benjamin Shapiro
Jill Stanek
Walter Williams
Jack Cashill
Jane Chastain
Larry Elder
Rebecca Hagelin
Craige McMillan
Hal Lindsey
Ilana Mercer
Melanie Morgan
Doug Phillips
Pat Boone
Ted Byfield
Jerry Falwell
Henry Lamb
Greg Laurie
Star Parker
Ellis Washington
Ted Baehr
Samuel Blumenfeld
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
Jerome Corsi
David Dolan
Mike Evans
Elizabeth Farah
Michael Farris
Sandy Froman
Bob Just
Alan Keyes
Devvy Kidd
Bob Kohn
David Kupelian
Jackie Mason & Raoul Felder
Jesse Lee Peterson
Robert Ringer
Erik Rush

[hosepipe]

[ Farah's a loon. ]

Any that say Farah is a loon are DoDo's..

[airborne]

Historically,the Republican nominee will shift his positions to the left for the general election, in order to capture votes from moderates, independants and undecided voters.

Can you just imagine Rudy moving left of where he is now??

I won’t vote for him now, nor will many others.

So how many more voters will he lose when he starts his shift leftward?

He may be many things, but conservative ain’t one of them.

[Reagan Man]

Time you dragged your butt out of the liberal cesspool and joined us conservative FReepers in opposing ALL liberal candidates. That is, unless you like wallowing in the liberal muck that is Rudy Giuliani.

Btw, this is about more then any one single issue and you know it. Rudy`s record shows a life time of support for liberal issues and liberal causes. No doubt about it. Rudy supports big government Republicanism, gun control, an assault weapons ban, abortion on demand, partial birth abortion, special rights for homos, amnesty for illegals, Campaign Finance Reform and the liberal idea that humans are a significant cause of global warming. I don't consider that a conservative record.

Rudy and his surrogates can spin their rhetoric and obfuscate his record forever, won’t change the facts.

[tumblindice]

“Rudy is a ‘conservative’. He’s socially liberal, politically conservative.”
http://www.ontheissues.org/2004_GOP_Platform.htm
Sure, Rudy’s a conservative—if you overlook that his positions on abortion, families and children, “gun control” & immigration (and other issues) are directly opposite of the Republican party platform (above).
On the other hand, how long has it been since the GOP was conservative?

“A very large, perhaps majority, segment of conservatives are socially L, politically C.”
Cite?

[MACVSOG68]

The real loons are the idiots who run around promoting liberals like Rudy Giuliani to be the GOP nominee. You liberal trolls belong over at DU with the other leftwingers, not on this conservative forum.

The only trolls I see around here are the extremists who are trying to hold the Party hostage to a social religious agenda most of America does not want. So to any of those who say they will not vote for the Republican candidate unless he meets their religious test I say, don't let the screen door hit you in the a$$.

BTW, extremism does not equal conservatism in any manner.

[dc-zoo]

But most other Americans will vote for Rudy. Get used to it.

[Reagan Man]

If one supports Rudy, you’re either a liberal or a conservative sell out. There is no in between.

Just because who’ve lost your mind and decided voting for Rudy the liberal is the right move, doesn’t mean ALL Republicans are obligated to follow your insane decision.

There is no such thing as a 100% conservative candidate. And Rudy is the furthest thing from a conservative running on the GOP side. You’ve made up your mind and so have I. I choose not to betray my conservative roots.

[Wormwood]

So to any of those who say they will not vote for the Republican candidate unless he meets their religious test I say, don't let the screen door hit you in the a$$.

Personally, I've voted for candidates whose religious views are alien to me for 20 years.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

“But most other Americans will vote for Rudy.”

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Just like most Italians voted for Mussolini?
I will have no part in it, except to work against it.

[Pravious]

“”Under no circumstances will I cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani as president, no matter whom he is running against.”
Farah’s a loon.”

I hope Farah remembers these words each and every day for the 8 years of Hillary’s rule.

[Flightdeck]

If Rudy is the nominee, every republican that fails to vote for him is a traitor.

And you call THIS guy an idiot??

[aculeus]

Farah is a gasbag.

And his family makes lousy pants.

[Reagan Man]

I think you’re off on the wrong track.

Most FReepers are social conservatives and most are Christians too. If you look at the polls you’ll see that most FReepers oppose Rudy Giuliani`s candidacy. I don’t see any religious extremism on FR. I see good old fashioned constitutional conservatism being promoted. And in my opinion, that sure beats the hell out of promoting liberal candidates like Giuliani and political liberalism.

[Ol' Sparky]

I’ll take Rudy over Hillary as POTUS anytime

I'd much rather endure four years of Hillary than eight years of a liberal Republican and/or Democrat, all while the Republian minority in Congress continues to shrink.

[MACVSOG68]

He would cut off his nose to spite his face? Why give the WH to Herevilself? If Rudy is the nominee, every republican that fails to vote for him is a traitor.

Let's can the "traitor" crap.