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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
He charged right in

Wasn't a lot of charging in to do. He and the wife were there having dinner.

4,581 posted on 04/17/2007 7:21:24 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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By 10:53 AM, an email had already gone out to the student body indicating the gunman "was in custody" and that "as part of routine police procedure" they were looking for other involved parties. That puts his demise somewhat earlier than 10:53 AM.

The search for others involved and the pictures of it are probably causing people to think LEOS were "standing around." They were clearing the campus to ensure there were no further threats.

4,582 posted on 04/17/2007 7:21:33 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: Howlin
My money is on the bloodsucking press.

Mine too. Truly sickening - it's all about the ratings to them. They couldn't wait to set up shop down there to exploit the situation.

4,583 posted on 04/17/2007 7:22:51 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Howlin

Did this guy have a roomate? Have they said?


4,584 posted on 04/17/2007 7:24:39 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: freeperfromnj

They had to be there in order to get the pained look on the parents’ faces as they arrived on campus, you know?

I’m picturing the parents driving and the press taking helicopters.


4,585 posted on 04/17/2007 7:25:44 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Trust but Verify
I DIDN’T SAY ANYONE SAID they tried the doors

Yes, but you said it yourself. The following is a direct quote of yours from maybe 20 or 30 minutes ago:

Maybe because when they tried the doors, they couldn’t open them? CHAINED doors would be evident, even from the outside.

Since when does "when they tried the doors" mean anything other than that they tried the doors?

Sorry, need some comic relief!

4,586 posted on 04/17/2007 7:27:34 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Moose4
I’m still stunned at the death toll he caused with just two handguns, and one of them low-powered (a .22)

During the press conference, they said that he used the same gun at both sites, the 9mm. Apparently the .22 wasn't used at all.

4,587 posted on 04/17/2007 7:30:01 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: wildcatf4f3

*sigh* catch up with all the other crapola I got on this thread over this 1 little post. And don’t equate policies on property with laws.


4,588 posted on 04/17/2007 7:30:26 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Never mind that.

What ticks me is something else.

Sure enough, right after I thought about how it always happens, FOX had an “expert” detective on WHO CALLED THE KILLER “GENTLEMAN” - and continued to call him “GENTLEMAN”.

WHAT THE H-— IS UP WITH PEOPLE CALLING MURDERING SCUMBAGS “GENTLEMEN” ALL THE TIME? IT’S NEVER USED ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT NEWS ON SOME CRIMINAL!


4,589 posted on 04/17/2007 7:37:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: All
I just recieved a "Virginia Airspace Bulletin" by email:

FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER BLACKSBURG TODAY

AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots in and near Blacksburg, Virginia, that the FAA has issued a notam restricting flight in the area during President Bush's planned visit to Virginia Tech today, Tuesday, April 17.

Looks like he'll be there shortly after noon - there is an advisory for severe turbulence in that area so I hope they take it easy!!!

4,590 posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:31 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

I don’t think it’s as much being a wimp as being “nice” (heavens, we can’t hurt the scumbag, he might sue)...and worrying whether they might hurt innocents.

Of course, the irony is, if you don’t act, especially with a loon, odds are that more innocents will be hurt than if you do go in “guns blazing”!


4,591 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:04 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: jennyjenny
Last night Greta

How about her repeatedly stating that this just isn't something parents would expect when sending their kids off to college.
4,592 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:00 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: don-o
May I interject that Greta makes me want to puke?

Yes, you may.

4,593 posted on 04/17/2007 7:45:23 AM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
being “nice”.....

Sarcasm. Guys around here use ‘gentleman’ and ‘fine upstanding citizen’ interchangeably and never mean either.

4,594 posted on 04/17/2007 7:47:05 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Halls

“that holocaust survivor professor who held the door shut while the students were jumping out the windows. He died going down trying to save others. That is a hero to me.”

Sorry to go “off-topic”, but where did you hear/see about this?

I haven’t gotten to see/hear much news. Mostly just through FR.


4,595 posted on 04/17/2007 7:48:33 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: jdm

Did you miss the MAYBE?? What does MAYBE mean to you? How about ‘perhaps’ or ‘perchance’ or ‘possibly’ or ‘feasibly’. I did NOT say it was a fact, but you have already crucified the cops as cowards. Bcause YOU know that they had numerous chances to stop him and didn’t, because they were lazy, or afraid, or incompetent. Not because they didn’t know who the guy was, where the guy was, or didn’t READ HIS MIND and KNOW he was going to pop up somewhere else two hours later and go on another rampage.


4,596 posted on 04/17/2007 7:50:02 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I agree. "Lock Down" is a control concept that naive bureaucrats who administer educational systems have borrowed from prison management. IMO, there should have been a "CALL to ARMS" which after which 5,000 armed citizens would have cornered this vermin and put hundreds of rounds of ammunition into his body, thus ending the assault (as well as his use of much needed oxygen).

Two things:

Are you saying our 'Betters' regard us a prisoners?

"CALL to ARMS" is an excellent idea.

4,597 posted on 04/17/2007 7:52:01 AM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Holocaust Survivor Murdered as He Saved Students

Unbelievable, gutwrenching heroism and courage.

4,598 posted on 04/17/2007 7:52:19 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Looks like you combined 2 posts!

Anyway, it’s NOT sarcasm. The way the people say it, it just flows. That’s not sarcasm. They don’t put an emphasis on the word or any such thing.

Happens all the time on the 11 news. It can be a detective, cop, or a man on the street, and he always says “I saw the gentleman pass my car....” nice and easy. No sarcasm about it. Just matter-of-fact.

Annoys the HELL out of me. Especially since the word is almost never used any more.


4,599 posted on 04/17/2007 7:52:48 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: ohioWfan

Yes, if that’s true, it is heroism.


4,600 posted on 04/17/2007 7:53:25 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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