Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)

http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

[LexHoskin]

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

[ilovew]

**There are at least 32 families for which the fact that people like yourselves want only “limited” gun control will be little consolation this evening.**

I don’t think you should presume to speak for the 32 familes. I can’t think of anyone on my campus I would feel comfortable with knowing they had a gun.

[fatima]

Is that the shooter’s name?Strange site.

[Bosco]

But it fits the MO of all of these "freelance" jihadis, like the Washington snipers.

L.A. Airport shooting.

Seattle synagogue shootings.

SUV attack (forget the location).

[Sgt. Stryker]

So you think that I when I was a 21 year old freshman, that had already served in the USMC, it would be a bad idea for me to be carrying. Why? Do you think as someone that has gone through the process to legally obtain a license to carry a firearm, I’d pull it out and start shooting up the classroom. It’s the illegal carriers that are doing this not the legal one’s.

Semper Fi

[spunkets]

"There are different extents to it. I think students shouldn’t be allowed to carry guns on campus. Does this put me in the same group as people who think no U.S. citizen should be allowed to carry a gun? Give me a break. "

You don't deserve a break, or respect, since you clearly deny the rights of peple to effectively defend themselves. That includes women you'd advocate leaving defenseless at the hands of sex criminals and those htat were killed today at the hands of a heinous killer.

[GOP_1900AD]

95 plus percent of the sheeple are not martially inclined. They don’t even know how to begin the thought process, let alone take action. Not a suprise, it’s not “cool” to be martially inclined in the post masculine age.

[barker]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818224/posts

Bill allowing handguns on campus was shot down with a smile and declared a good thing. Morons. Shooter knew campus was a gun free zone.

[oceanview]

how about we just have one thread that isn’t focused on being anti-Rudy.

[HIDEK6]

Initial emergency care for a gunshot wound consists of direct pressure over the entrance/exit. Bare hand if need be.

1: Stop the bleeding

2: Protect the wound

3: Clear the air passage

4: Treat for shock

[archy]

I can't recall enough to find specifics based on "that law school in NY" or "that courthouse in TX," but I don't seem to recall that armed civilians were involved in stopping them.

You need to recall a little better. The Tyler, Texas courthouse shooting was a 24 February 2005, incident in which David Hernandez Arroyo Sr. opened fire on his ex-wife and son in front of the Smith County Courthouse in Tyler, Texas, then engaged law enforcement officers in a shootout. Arroyo was using a semiauto MAK-90 version of a Kalishnikov.

Local resident Mark Allen Wilson was returning to his nearby apartment when the shooting began. Wilson, who held a Texas concealed handgun permit, is believed to have responded to seeing Arroyo shoot his wife by drawing his own weapon, a Colt .45 caliber pistol and approaching. Arroyo was already engaged in a heated gun battle with sheriff's deputies and Tyler police officers and apparently did not see Wilson.

Wilson fired one round at Arroyo, causing him to stumble. A witness saw the round strike Arroyo and saw "white puffs of powder-like substance" come from Arroyo's clothing. This appeared to be the first time Arroyo was hit or injured during his attack on the courthouse. Wilson then took cover behind Arroyo's truck.

As Arroyo approached, Wilson stood up and fired again at Arroyo over the truck, hitting him; however, Arroyo was wearing a bulletproof vest, and Wilson's shots did not disable him. Arroyo turned and fired at least one shot at Wilson. He faltered and disappeared from view behind the truck, where Arroyo fired at him three times, killing him.

As Arroyo approached, Wilson stood up and fired again at Arroyo over the truck, hitting him; however, Arroyo was wearing a bulletproof vest, and Wilson's shots did not disable him. Arroyo turned and fired at least one shot at Wilson. He faltered and disappeared from view behind the truck, where Arroyo fired at him three times, killing him.

Wilson's intervention, which ended with his death, probably prevented Arroyo from killing others, including finishing off the two sheriff's deputies, a police officer, and Arroyo's son, who had already been wounded.

Arroyo attempted to flee the area in his truck with a number of police officers in pursuit. Arroyo stopped and again exchanged gunfire with police, whereupon Sgt. Rusty Jacks used a Colt AR-15 rifle to fire five shots, one of which struck Arroyo in the back of the head, killing him instantly and ending the battle.

Stories and reports of the shootings at the Appalachian School of Law can be seen here.

It was not the Paducah, KY school shooting, but that in Pearl, Mississippi, ended by an armed teacher: when on 01 October 1997 then 16-year-old Luke Woodham entered his school with a rifle and began firing rampantly, killing his ex-girlfriend Christina Menefee and her friend Lydia Dew, and wounding 7 others before Joel Myrick, the assistant principal, retrieved his .45 automatic from the glove compartment of his truck and subdued Woodham. When Myrick asked Woodham of his motive, he replied "Life has wronged me, sir".

"Here was this monster killing kids in my school, and the minute I put a gun to his head he was a kid again," Myrick said.

[BurbankKarl]

Each gun would hold 15 or 17.....and he would have other magazines ready after he emptied the first ones.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Utah CCW’s are good in 32 states, I believe. I have one. No good in California, though : )

[No Blue States]

BTTT Well said.

Check out the video half way down at this link labeled “(Watch a student’s recording of police responding to loud bangs )

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html

What the hell are they doing?

[A Citizen Reporter]

"Did you hear him say that he spoke with a friend that was in one of the rooms that the shooter entered and killed everyone? His friend played dead and wasn't shot."

No, I missed that part. Geesh.

[DCPatriot]

FOXNEWS says that he had two 9mm handguns.

What's the maximum clip capacity on those?

[fatima]

I was able to see part of that interview,they didn’t have much info.

[eleni121]

Terrorism = Islam.

It has for over 1300 years.

[Txsleuth]

I heard on the radio news that a bunch of them were lined up and shot execution style...on Fox Radio News.

I don’t know if that is true...just thought I would add that.

I think we Americans need to re-think how we react to things.

Just like on 9/11...no one thought the hijackers would take the plane and use IT as a weapon..until the last plane found out about the other three.

I am sure most of us believe we should “cooperate”...and not have personal weapons.

I think we all have to start thinking differently...

[NittanyLion]

I don’t think you should presume to speak for the 32 familes. I can’t think of anyone on my campus I would feel comfortable with knowing they had a gun.

There's your problem. You seek to make law based upon what you "feel" instead of the Constitution or the available facts.