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Fred W. Friendly (Portrayed by George Clooney in that Edward R. Murrow movie) wrote a book called "The Good Guys, The Bad Guys and The First Amendment." Friendly was Murrow's "See It Now" collaborator and a former CBS News president.

It details these "Fairness Doctrine Days" and is deserving of a movie, although I don't envision Clooney doing it.

I'm now listening to an audio stream of Imus from 1972 (1st anniversary in New York) with lots of controversial comment including one guy telling Imus that prostitution should be legal. Chuck McCord was doing the news back then, too. And he has a lispy gay phony newscaster.

1 posted on 04/15/2007 5:28:25 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
Great post. People who pooh pooh the ultimate ramifications of the Imus kerfluffle worry me.

Of course, many of us have become leery of First Amendment protection, due to the trashers (Piss Christ, etc - ad nauseum)

2 posted on 04/15/2007 5:36:23 AM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Nextrush

So Johnson was behind the fairness doctrine and getting churches under the IRS.


3 posted on 04/15/2007 5:39:10 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Nextrush
Great post!. Same script - far more dangerous players.


5 posted on 04/15/2007 6:04:15 AM PDT by drpix
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Imus got was coming to him, just like Whoopi was expelled from Slim Fast when she made Jackass comments about the President. Money talks! And when masses of customers are fed up with certain diatribes, it is their Constitutional Right to respond.


6 posted on 04/15/2007 6:05:37 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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Imus is just another example of what happens to white people who make the mistake of offending the black folks.

Imus was a liberal and definitely has nothing against black people. In fact i am sure heb would lean over backwards to be helpful to most black organisations.
Howard Cosell who was another white man that was tossed aside because of blacks being offended was a great fan of black sports figures. He helped make Cassious Clay a personality, helped hiom become famous and always pushed black sports figures as being great. Yet they tossed all Howards good works aside and attacked him for a small offhand remark.

Imus was making what he thought was a joke,.But he made it about the wrong race. had he made it about whites ,polish , irish most any other race or sect he would have gotten away.
No he stepped in the dog doo that is black offense.
So he’s gone and we wonder who will be next.

One thing is certain the ones who need to be taken to task for this Al & Jesse wont be bothered. They will go on race baiting and not only allowed to get away with it , they will be praised for it.


7 posted on 04/15/2007 6:07:52 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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First they didn’t come for Imus. First they came for Jimmy the Greek, then guys like John Rocker and Charlie Ward. Then they came for offenders of homosexuals like Tim Hardaway and that actor from Greys Anatomy. Now they devoured one of their own. Next it will be offenders of Islam and the State.
16 posted on 04/15/2007 6:37:15 AM PDT by nativist (Islam: an excuse to kill someone you don't like.)
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I think the Imus blowup was the 2007 equivalent of the question that stopped McCarthyism, “Have you no decency, sir?”. When it becomes popular in urban music to call women ‘hoes’, meaning prostitutes, then there is an aspect of liberalism (an ideology that holds itself out as protecting women and minorities), that thinks it is not such a bad thing to allow some women to be demeaned in that way.

Social conservatives have been asking the popular liberal culture, in various ways and in various venues for a long, long time, have you no decency. The liberal culture has reacted by castigating conservatives as only wanting to “impose” values on society or wanting to destroy free speech.

Imus has the right to say what he did. In doing so, he must take responsibility for society finally waking up to what a horrible thing he really said. Thankfully this has provoked society into a self-examination of the consistency and values that were being expressed and these values have (finally) been shown to be lacking in the very values that the left thinks are theirs alone to protect and advance.

The Fairness Doctrine is disconnected from the Imus Hoe Flap. The Left counts Iums as one of its own. If he is allowed to come back, or if a replacement for him is found, that person will be allowed to say the same things that Imus has been saying for years, except this one area will now be off limits. The Fairness Doctrine is not aimed at the Left, it is aimed at every other voice on talk radio.

Happily, we now have the internet, and internet radio. We also have internet streaming media being delivered to cell phones, which are like the portable transistor radios of the 60’s generation. Increasingly, with ever expansion of the internet in wireless forms, it will be easier and easier for alternatives to Big Broadcast Networks and the gatekeepers who have stationed themselves on that media, to spring up.

Like Matt Drudge, who started off with a cheap PC and a dialup connection, anyone with very simple equipment and an almost-free connection to the net can produce his own program of commentary or news and make it available to web sites and forums that would be receptive to it. There is nothing that anyone who doesn’t like it will be able to do to stop that person.

Let free speech bloom, and screw the self-appointed gatekeepers.

24 posted on 04/15/2007 7:10:42 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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if a democrap wins the 2008 election

an attack on the fairness doctrine is a given.

i hear too many women that i know that watch oprah and rosie

saying that “rush limbaugh and ann coulter shouldn’t be saying

those things”.


26 posted on 04/15/2007 7:14:28 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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Imus isn’t being censored any more than are the Dixie Chicks. He’s free to say what he wants, and his audience is free to turn the channel. His employers are free to call him on the carpet, or even make a show of firing him, if they fear enough people are turning the station.

Its business.

I don’t listen to Dixie Chick songs when they come on the radio, and the radio station knows it, so they don’t play them. I stopped lisening to Imus years ago after he went off on Christians one day (if you don’t like what I’m saying, he said, turn the station, and I did, permanently).

What he said in this case was over the line, and I’m not surprised there are consequences, not legal ones, but business ones, you can’t stay in business if your listeners don’t listen and your advertisers don’t want to be associated with you. Thats not censorship, though. Its the reason producers have to think twice before using Sean Penn in one of their movies, since there are any number of people who won’t buy the ticket if he’s in it.

That is nothing to do with Fairness Doctrine, though. You are right, though, in observing that getting rid of Limbaugh is priority one for the Dems, from the moment they retake the White House. Had Clinton had a few more months in office before, they would have taken Limbaugh out, and they will stop at nothing until he is gone, should they win big in 2008. You can count on it. That has nothing to do with Imus, though. If Imus were going down over “Fairness”, I’d defend him. He’s going down because he used racial epithets that would get my kids a bar of soap in the mouth if they used them. I have no patience for anyone who talks like that, period. Its not censorship, though, its called turning the station.


27 posted on 04/15/2007 7:18:18 AM PDT by marron
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33 posted on 04/15/2007 8:29:52 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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The bottom line is that Imus’ ratings were so miniscule that he wasn’t worth saving. Howard Stern can get away with saying outrageous things, because he has the listeners.


36 posted on 04/15/2007 8:49:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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This Imus garbage is about dumping Rush and Savage and re-instituting government control of the content of radio and TV broadcasts, sometimes known as the “Fairness Doctrine”


38 posted on 04/15/2007 9:13:04 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Free Speech: a fairy tale about something that existed in the USA a long time ago)
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Cogent and to the point. Also, absolutely right. Well written.


39 posted on 04/15/2007 9:16:19 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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Thanks for this. It highlights the fact that defenders of freedom must be ever vigilant.
41 posted on 04/15/2007 10:24:23 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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btt


44 posted on 04/15/2007 2:35:35 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Magnificent post! While I have known about the Fairness Doctrine for decades, I never knew there was such a serious fight over it when it was put into place. Thank you so much for filling in the blanks.

That bit about the preacher broadcasting a poem in which a dog urinates on Dr. King's grave is illuminating. It provides a stark contrast of the racist speech controversies of today versus those in the latter half of the 20th century, and puts the lie to the notion that things haven't changed.

What has changed? Well, nobody can get away with calling black women whores on the air unless they are black themselves. Not really progress, but at least now it's not a dog pissing on King's grave, it's a Dogg (as in Snoop).

47 posted on 04/15/2007 7:52:33 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee ( Imus' apology to Rutgers: Next day. Sharpton's apology to Stephen Pagones: 19 yrs and counting)
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