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Whitey, learn to keep your mouth shut
timesonline.co.uk ^ | April 14, 2007 | Alan Davieson

Posted on 04/14/2007 7:04:31 PM PDT by neverdem

A racial storm in America

Don Imus, the line-crossing talk-radio host who broadcast daily across America from his New York studio, has been fired for referring to a team of black women basketball players as “nappy-headed ho’s”. Imus, a former Marine with a gruff demeanour, had an unsentimental show or, as they might say in America, it featured “guy talk” (any Briton, by the way, who uses “guy” or “guys” deserves a glossectomy).

There was some banter and unsubtle opinions were aired. It was not out of control but it also wasn’t a sanitised PC affair. He’s quite amusing and articulate in a resolutely uncomplicated way and had a huge listenership generating vast advertising revenue. Consequently, he attracted significant political figures as guests, pretty much anyone bar the President, who, of course, is rarely free to speak in public unscripted lest he describe Condi Rice as “that Secretary of State ho” in a momentary lapse.

Nappy-head, it turns out (excuse my whiteyness), means a black person who has allowed their hair to grow naturally into a tightly curled afro. It’s a term that can be used self-referentially with pride or disparagingly about others. Being a racial thing, its power is in the mouth of the speaker. Or is it in the ear of the listener? It’s complicated, so, in the interests of a quiet life, don’t use it unless you are very confident or, in fact, a nappy-head.

Imus apologised, offered no excuses, was roundly vilified and endured the measured, disproportionate wrath of Al Sharpton when guesting on the black activist/pentecostal minister’s radio show to defend himself. What they said, Imus and his sports reporter buddy, about the basketball game, was quite funny. The two teams were physically different. It was college basketball and Rutgers were playing Tennessee. The Rutgers girls looked more intimidating, they were inked up (tattoos . . .) and were altogether more menacing-looking even in defeat. These white radio boys were sniggering about that.

Basically, had it been a football match and it had all kicked off in the tunnel after the game, you’d have backed the Rutgers girls. The banter in the studio started trying to incorporate some black street language to describe the game to comic effect. It wasn’t very clever but then it’s morning talk radio.

To get to the top in college basketball you have to be good, in a general sense, not just at basketball, and you have to make sacrifices. At least that’s what college basketball folk and their families say. The girls were upset and in their robust defence they have been referred to as fine “representatives of God”. What fun you could have with that on the air if you were allowed to. God has sent down a team of 6ft tall Amazonian tattooed basketball players to represent Him. No doubt the devil sent Don Imus.

This happens when things get Blown Up Out Of All Proportion. There are enough people with a keen ear for a lapse that anyone broadcasting anywhere ought to speak thoughtfully. If only because you may not know how much offence you’ve caused until the outcry afterwards. Imus didn’t say: “If I’ve offended anyone I apologise.” He knew he’d caused offence.

He also did not say that the language and lyrics of black American rap artists leave his kind of remark not just in the shade but on the dark side of the moon.

A few years ago, on C4’s Big Breakfast, Johnny Vaughan asked me which was my worst ever stand-up gig. In 1989, at a private party in a Basildon disco, I performed to unanimous indifference. After me was an older comic. He ventured “Are there any Pakis in?” then went down a storm with racist material. Johnny intervened: “You can’t say that.” I said: it’s a true story — he said Pakis, not me. He stepped in with the forceful jocularity of the practised live TV presenter: “You can’t say that word.”

Some time later, a group of young British Asians were sitting in front of me at a football match. Bizarrely, one of them wanted a picture of me as his mum was a Jonathan Creek fan. His mate sneered: “I ain’t taking a picture of him, he used the P-word on TV.” He had me down as a racist, which was unpleasant. I’d gone over some invisible line. Johnny Vaughan knew where the line was; I didn’t. I thought context was relevant. I was as naive as a newborn calf. I was a C-word.

Among friends, thankfully, you can draw your own line. Wesley and Donald, two friends of mine from Edmonton, were discussing Donald’s attempts to sell his house after the break-up of his marriage. Donald was talking about some people who’d said they’d buy and then went back on the deal they’d shaken on.

“White folks?” said Wesley. “Yeh, they was white,” replied Donald. “Can’t trust Whitey,” said Wesley. “Nope,” said Donald, “you sure can’t trust Whitey.”

This observation had a poignancy and surprising air of veracity about it as well as being amusing, given that Wesley and Donald are both white.

Generally speaking Whitey’s too dumb to know where the line is. He must tread carefully since it’s the only line on the whole map of the world that he didn’t draw.


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Is it just me or does anybody remember a few years back when Hillary was trying to justify her stance on the right to choose and she used a scenario of a white woman being raped by a black man... anybody remember that? I was looking for a video of this or audio on YouTube but could not find it and I would LOVE to post it on YouTube if there does exist audio or even better a video of this.

Anybody remember this?


21 posted on 04/14/2007 7:26:50 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Rush Limbaugh: "Sharpton Is Right!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TFvLITiIFY)
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To: raccoonradio

Whitey is on that island where the CIA keeps Elvis and JFK.


22 posted on 04/14/2007 7:30:38 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Obie Wan

Imus genuflected at the alter of Al and Jesse, apologized incessently and for what he got fired anyway. He should have just said “Go f&*& yourselves” then get fired. At least he would still have his dignity.


23 posted on 04/14/2007 7:31:27 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

His biggest mistake after making the statement in the first place,was wasting his time with these two race baiting hustlers !!!


24 posted on 04/14/2007 7:33:53 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: neverdem
Piss on this politically correct crap and the liberal hate mongers and race baiter's who promote it.

There, said it and mean it, no apologies.

25 posted on 04/14/2007 7:37:39 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: neverdem
The line is where ever Jesse, Sharpton,the rank and file of Race baiters Inc., along with the politically correct white liberal thoughts and words police, say it is at any given time.
26 posted on 04/14/2007 7:38:36 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (When the law becomes the outlaw, only outlaws benefit from the law.)
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To: neverdem

Let’s be careful about some rear-guard defense that “nappy-headed hos” really isn’t that bad. This whole thing has been ugly and stupid from back to front.


27 posted on 04/14/2007 7:41:35 PM PDT by Generic_Login_1787
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To: bannie

I think the nappy head is cut a lot shorter than an afro.


28 posted on 04/14/2007 7:42:21 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: traderrob6

Imus needs to go indy and see what the market desires of his idiocy. I’m surprised that he doesn’t own his own show.


29 posted on 04/14/2007 7:43:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: OKIEDOC

It would appear the the Rutger’s WBB Team was posing.


30 posted on 04/14/2007 7:45:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: neverdem
He must tread carefully since it’s the only line on the whole map of the world that he didn’t draw.

Out of the ballpark!

31 posted on 04/14/2007 7:45:53 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: expatpat

Is that it? I guess I need an education.

:-o


32 posted on 04/14/2007 7:46:10 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Generic_Login_1787

Agreed, thought you might enjoy this...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2007/04/stringer-session-with-imus-extremely.html


33 posted on 04/14/2007 7:49:26 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: tsowellfan

We can only hope.


34 posted on 04/14/2007 7:52:39 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: Obie Wan

I agree with that. Imus’ comments were vile and he deserved the blowback. These women did nothing to him or anyone else and he lashed out with unprovoked racial invectives. But literally kneeling at Sharpton’s feet, holy moly. In my opinion, he should have apologized to these women directly and to his audience, and let the chips fall where they may.

I didn’t realize until this thread that he literally kneeled; I thought it was a figure of speech.

Anyone have a YouTube clip of that?


35 posted on 04/14/2007 7:53:57 PM PDT by KJC1 (Right when you think you're really good is when you need to pay the most attention)
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To: neverdem

OK - soooooo....

Sharpton and Jackson, since they claim to be SOOO offended by Imus’ terminology, must spend countless hours protesting in front of concert venues, music stores, and in front of the record industry headquarters because those use the same words - and MUCH WORSE... all with the specific intent of being offensive...

Oh - wait - that is Different....Just have to love double standards!


36 posted on 04/14/2007 7:57:59 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: neverdem
Keep pushing us, my swarthy cousins. Our generosity and politeness can easily go away, and what will come will make the Tulsa and East St. Louis riots look like target practice. ;-)

Of course, I reallu dom't blame the black folks here. I blame the neutered white guys who run the media, particularly those of the baby boom generation. The only thing that earns RESPECT and OBEDIANCE is B-A-L-L-S, not "apologies."

37 posted on 04/14/2007 8:01:34 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: TheBattman

I didn’t see it but my wife told me that someone on Fox was interviewing a black leader (she didn’t know who) and this anonymous black leader said something along the lines of “blacks can use Ho, ni&&er, etc etc with impunity because those words are part of black culture” but whites cannot.


38 posted on 04/14/2007 8:04:22 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: no dems
He should have never caved in to the politically correct crowd. He should have said: “Yeah, I said it. It was a poor choice of words but I said it. Deal with it.”

You are right. While I wouldn't call any basketball team A bunch of" tight curled afro wearing prostitutes" it was hardly anything more than as you said a poor choice of words.

The fact that Imus caved so badly in my opinion makes him nothing more than a big mouthed white liberal COWARD.

He got what deserved, not because of what he said but because he acted like he did something wrong.

39 posted on 04/14/2007 8:19:51 PM PDT by A message (Liberalism does not breed survivors)
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To: neverdem
"any Briton, by the way, who uses 'guy' or 'guys' deserves a glossectomy"

Hmmmmm. Yes, I agree.

Come to think of it, I never use the word "guy" either. Never. And I'm as American as anyone can get. I find myself saying "man" or "boy"--never "guy".

40 posted on 04/14/2007 8:26:45 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Idealogical purity is a luxury, pragmatism a necessity.)
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