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To: Spiff
The cross-dressing stuff helps Rudy more than it hurts him.

The urban and suburban professionals Rudy appeals to will find his self-deprecating humor to be refreshing. The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.

Rudy can easily turn this lemon into lemonade by going on Oprah or Letterman, letting the photos be put out there, having a good laugh over it and pointing out how many people benefitted by the charitable fund-raising his antics facilitated. If he can find a baby who was cured and now lives a productive life because of Rudy's ability to poke a little fun at himself, so much the better.

The only place these photos hurt Rudy Giuliani is in the imaginations of the anti-Rudy crowd. It is one more example of their bad political judgment.

7 posted on 04/14/2007 10:23:25 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: massadvj
The cross-dressing stuff helps Rudy more than it hurts him.

No way. This is the Presidency of the United States we are talking about here. The leader of the free world. Nobody wants a cross-dresser in the White House. Once may be a good nature gag, twice is a big problem. He's done. That is a humiliating photo that will hang around his neck like a millstone.

8 posted on 04/14/2007 10:26:29 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: massadvj

Wrong.

Some of the antics and groups he still aligns himself with show that it’s more than antics, it’s ENDORSEMENT.


9 posted on 04/14/2007 10:27:09 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: massadvj
"You get out in more sophisticated places of the country, where they know Giuliani and they like him and they know about some of his antics, it's not going to be any surprise, but down here where they've never seen that kind of thing, it could do him some damage,"

Classic Northeastern elitism...where the border stops in Greenwich Village.

Southerners ain't that cloistered.

10 posted on 04/14/2007 10:28:14 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: massadvj
"The cross-dressing stuff helps Rudy more than it hurts him."

This statement qualifies as the "Delusion of the Week".

12 posted on 04/14/2007 10:28:44 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: massadvj

“The cross-dressing stuff helps Rudy more than it hurts him.”

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.


13 posted on 04/14/2007 10:28:48 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: massadvj
"The cross-dressing stuff helps Rudy more than it hurts him."

Your statement here makes the rest of us wonder how you dress when you go out...

14 posted on 04/14/2007 10:31:29 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: massadvj
The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.

I think that pretty well sums up your candidate's view of the people who were very recently regarded as the heart and soul of the Republican Party.

16 posted on 04/14/2007 10:32:02 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: massadvj
Hillary’s more masculine than he is. She doesn’t have a lisp. He ran away last time they faced off. If we are stupid enough to nominate this big city tooty fruity, we deserve the beating we get.
22 posted on 04/14/2007 10:39:07 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: massadvj
The only place these photos hurt Rudy Giuliani is in the imaginations of the anti-Rudy crowd.

The only ones who believe that have drunk too much Roody-Aide.

23 posted on 04/14/2007 10:39:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: massadvj
The yahoos in the stix will not understand it,

The "yahoos in the stix" (otherwise known as red-state voters in flyover country who constitute the base of the GOP) are sick of slicks like you talking down to them.

26 posted on 04/14/2007 10:40:49 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: massadvj
Wrong.

If Rudy had done it once, it would be forgivable. But he's done it on several occasions. He seems to have some sort of a cross-dressing fetish, and seems to enjoy it a little too much. I, and most people I know, won't vote for a transvestite.

27 posted on 04/14/2007 10:41:36 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: massadvj
Rudy can easily turn this lemon into lemonade by going on Oprah or Letterman

Do you believe conservatives watch those twits? I thought those programs were for hte liberals. Oops, I forgot this is Rudy Judy we are talking about.

31 posted on 04/14/2007 10:47:33 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: massadvj
The only place these photos hurt Rudy Giuliani is in the imaginations of the anti-Rudy crowd. It is one more example of their bad political judgment.

No...

It's goofball LIBERALS like Kerry in the "bunny suit", Dukakis with the oversized helmet on in the tank turret, and RINO-rudy in his various cross-dressing outfits that have the bad political judgement.

35 posted on 04/14/2007 10:54:21 AM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: massadvj

“The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.”


You really believe that you are some sort of superior being, don’t you? This is exactly why many of us do not want Rudy, and you, in the Whitehouse.
Want to find out who the “yahoos” are? Drag your butt outside your urban beehive, and make a living in the real world.


36 posted on 04/14/2007 10:54:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: massadvj

Gotta agree - he’s got a sense of humor


55 posted on 04/14/2007 11:25:17 AM PDT by aumrl
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To: massadvj
The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.

After hearing how we right winged religious extremist social conservative yahoos supposedly stayed home in 2006 and gave control of the Congress to the Dems, now we are irrelevant?

You might be able to switch hit when y'all put on your make-up, but some things you just can't have both ways.

But don't worry. We d@mned sure won't be voting for Rudy.

59 posted on 04/14/2007 11:36:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: massadvj
The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.

We understand it alright. Rudy IS a trainwreck. He is also a fool for thinking he will be the nominee when his record and these pictures hit the MSM on a daily schedule.

He just looks to be enjoying it too much. I don't want pictures of my President looking the fool for foreign consumption. It may just be for a special occasion, but the pictures remain.

Also your assessments of the 2006 elections are not correct and you do not have any credibility on a conservative site. Most of what you say here is irrelevant, its amazing how you think we are irrelevant, but here you are. Are you just here to lob insults, or is the purpose that Rooty cannot win without us? It would be refreshing if Rudy would take a hike.

60 posted on 04/14/2007 11:38:29 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: massadvj

Rudy dressed in drag is startling...but certainly wouldn’t be enough to change my vote for him, were I so inclined.

The attitude you have towards those of us “yahoos in the stix” ...on the other hand...is one I find distinctly and ironically narrow and, if shared by the candidate you support, will be his undoing.

I know you think the world and all of Rudy, as do many other FReepers. I cannot empasize how much harm you do him by your snobby and condescending attitude.


62 posted on 04/14/2007 11:43:16 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet & FredFan)
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To: massadvj
The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year.

I work with a guy from Brooklyn who isn't amused with FruityRuity's transvestite tendencies either. Perhaps what you meant to say was "all the stupid, unsophisticated yokels outside of Manhattan".

64 posted on 04/14/2007 11:54:50 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: massadvj
"The urban and suburban professionals Rudy appeals to will find his self-deprecating humor to be refreshing. The yahoos in the stix will not understand it, but they were rendered irrelevant in 2006 and will be more so next year."

As a yahoo from the stix (you are just sizzlin' with allegorical content today, huh?), I find Rudy's dressing as a woman on numerous occasions disquieting and not helpful to America's image during a time of war.

I would not vote for him as first choice due to his pro-abortion, pro-gun control and pro-homosexual agenda.

I do find your liberal elitism a bit out of place here. You do know that the the Yahoos in flyover country do make more than significant contributions to America's Armed Forces, not to mention, farmers, construction workers, truck drivers . In other words they allow you to practice your progressive lifestyle in safety and comfort.

76 posted on 04/14/2007 12:41:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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