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Pat Schroeder on Imus Incident: People Thought Meanness Was Masculine
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 04/14/2007 5:55:47 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Has the Imus-inspired national conversation on race and sex jumped the shark? I'm starting to suspect so after hearing Pat Schroeder this morning. Her major contribution to the collective dialogue was to suggest that there's something inherently masculine about verbal meanness.

The former Democratic congresswoman from Colorado was a member of a panel moderated by NBC's Lester Holt on this morning's "Today."

View video here.

LESTER HOLT: We keep having a conversation. Are we changing, though, as a culture?

PAT SCHROEDER: I hope we are, and I think part of it is what we're seeing in Iraq. We're seeing in Iraq the Shiites and the Sunnis fighting tremendously and we begin to realize a diverse democracy is a difficult thing to do, and you really can't allow people to stereotype and attack other folks on public airwaves and do things like that. Because that's the kind of, it will breed all sorts of hatred and things that way. It's just not a good thing to do. And so I think maybe we're having a pullback from this meanness. Where we really thought meanness was cute, and somehow it was masculine or something, I don't know, but let's hope there's a real pullback on that."

Bonus points to Pat for managing to work Iraq into the conversation. But really, if we can't do better than this, maybe we just need a pullback from more TV roundtables on the topic.

Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: imus; iraq; patschroeder; todayshow
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1 posted on 04/14/2007 5:55:50 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Schroeder-the-sage-on-Imus ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 04/14/2007 5:57:32 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fight on, MEN.(NOT sarc/)


3 posted on 04/14/2007 5:57:49 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

She’s still alive? Who knew?


4 posted on 04/14/2007 5:59:00 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I can’t believe that at one time people voted for this moonbat. I hope that they have since matured enough to regret it.
5 posted on 04/14/2007 6:00:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When in doubt - when confronted - ‘pull back’. . .Libs cannot escape themselves.


6 posted on 04/14/2007 6:01:00 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
there's something inherently masculine about verbal meanness.

Does every thread HAVE to be about Rosie O'Donnell?

7 posted on 04/14/2007 6:03:06 AM PDT by Bernard (The price used to be 30 pieces of silver; now it's a spinach subsidy.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm waiting for an interviewer to burst out laughing when a Democrat pulls a stunt like that:

"HAHAHA! You're going there? You're really going there? Don Imus calls people "Nappy headed Ho's" and you're going to link that to Iraq? My god, have you no shame? Have no shred of decency? Do you really hate Bush that much? Do you?"

8 posted on 04/14/2007 6:04:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: RichInOC

One of the few people in need of both brain and voice transplants.


9 posted on 04/14/2007 6:04:40 AM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Recent quotations I found that are relevant to her comments:

“A misogynist is a man who hates women as much as women hate each other.” — HL Mencken

“When women kiss it always reminds me of prize fighters shaking hands.” — HL Mencken.

“When a woman behaves like a man, why doesn’t she behave like a nice man?” — Edith Evans


10 posted on 04/14/2007 6:05:29 AM PDT by Lord Basil (stupisticated - Having a refined fantasy view of the world that is typically based on group-think.)
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Her comments on meanness being masculine aside, I’d encourage people to read the whole of Schroeder’s statement. Inanity exemplified.


11 posted on 04/14/2007 6:06:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Lord Basil

I’m assuming Mencken was referring to the air-kiss variety.


12 posted on 04/14/2007 6:09:51 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A real deep thinker, that Schroeder.


13 posted on 04/14/2007 6:12:01 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I never realized how masculine Schroeder is until now.


14 posted on 04/14/2007 6:12:16 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: trisham

No! the same moonbats are still voting for other moonbats.


15 posted on 04/14/2007 6:14:19 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Grassy Headed Hoes


16 posted on 04/14/2007 6:14:28 AM PDT by ct_libertarian (Wanted: Conservative Mongooses for Communist Copperheads)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Patsy Schroeder is a patronizing sarcastic snot. Ranks right up there with the Queen of Mean. Can’t even stand to hear her voice and well I remember it from her MANY (too many) years as congresswoman from Colorado and constant military bashing.


17 posted on 04/14/2007 6:15:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Lord Basil
“When a woman behaves like a man, why doesn’t she behave like a nice man?” — Edith Evans

I can behave like a nice man.

Sometimes.

18 posted on 04/14/2007 6:15:24 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Slappy Headed Moe


19 posted on 04/14/2007 6:15:47 AM PDT by ct_libertarian (Wanted: Conservative Mongooses for Communist Copperheads)
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To: mariabush
I guess I’m just naive. :)
20 posted on 04/14/2007 6:16:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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