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DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES
blogs.abcnews.com ^ | 4/12/07 | Terry Moran

Posted on 04/13/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by RedCell

DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor who pursued a case of rape and kidnapping against three Duke University lacrosse players, has been found to have been reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties according to the state's attorney general. He abused the power the people of Durham granted him. Based on the public record of what he did in this case, he may well be properly disbarred.

The accuser in this case has been shown to be either a vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.

The three young men who she accused are truly innocent of the charges brought against them according to the North Carolina Attorney General and the investigation led by his office.

But perhaps the outpouring of sympathy for Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans is just a bit misplaced. They got special treatment in the justice system--both negative and positive. The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least. And there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country who never get the high-priced legal representation and the high-profile, high-minded vindication that it strikes me as just a bit unseemly to heap praise and sympathy on these particular men.

So as we rightly cover the vindication of these young men and focus on the genuine ordeal they have endured, let us also remember a few other things:

They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.

During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.

Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.

The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them--the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Duke or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success. They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans--or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured:

I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either. They aren't heroes. They aren't boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor--and had the resources the fight him off.

April 12, 2007 | Permalink


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2strippers; 800dollars; pervertparty; strippers
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To: reagandemo

Is it CBS that fired Imus for (gasp!) using the word “ho”? Does anyone know if some part CBS makes scads of money selling HipHop records where black “artists” use the same word thirty times in a song? I would love to be able to document this, if true, if anyone can.


61 posted on 04/13/2007 1:17:28 PM PDT by 50sDad (Cultural Diversity means never having to say "I don't fit in.")
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To: RedCell

A couple of quick notes for terrymoran-

“The three young men who she accused are truly innocent of the charges brought against them...”

Refrain from using sentences like this. You have no idea what the terms “innocence” or “guilt” really mean, nor do you want to know. It just throws off the whole essence of your diatribe (and if you have to ask someone else what the terms mean, it’s just not worth it...)

“As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives.”

Ahh...that’s more like it (...a-hole)


62 posted on 04/13/2007 1:20:42 PM PDT by richlk
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Thank goodness no black guy of college age has ever hired a stripper! No, wait a minute...

OK, thank goodness no rich sucessful black guy ever made money calling women "hos"! Oh, hold on....

63 posted on 04/13/2007 1:21:30 PM PDT by 50sDad (Cultural Diversity means never having to say "I don't fit in.")
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To: RedCell
They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

I thought they were 'exotic dancers.'

64 posted on 04/13/2007 1:23:49 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: RedCell
That is dumb. Is the author implying that because (i) they engaged in immoral behavior the conspiratorial prosecutorial misconduct was not so inappropriate and (ii) because others have been unjustly prosecuted, we shouldn't sympathize with them?

(ii) is especially stupid. Should we not feel sorry for a rape, murder, etc. victim because others have been victimized as well?

65 posted on 04/13/2007 1:25:51 PM PDT by undeniable logic
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To: Augustinian monk

66 posted on 04/13/2007 1:27:58 PM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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To: RedCell
let us also remember a few other things:

They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.


And? Wow, guys in college want to see strippers, stop the presses.

Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.

Why is this a problem for Mr. Moran - "at least" implies that these guys didn't ask for an all-white stripper team, and I fail to see the problem even if they did. Different guys have different tastes. I assume that Mr. Moran probably has his own preferences in women as well.

During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.

Why is Terry Moran stating this as fact? Was he there? Apparently the only person who claimed this happened was the accuser who also claimed - falsely - that she was raped.

Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.

Well, that certainly justifies being falsely accused in 2006 of rape and assault, suspended from college, paying attorney fees to defend against a clearly delusional prosecutor, and facing the possibility of doing serious jail time for a crime he didn't commit.
67 posted on 04/13/2007 1:35:50 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: RedCell

So it’s racist to ask for a white stripper? You can’t specify what sort of stripper you find most attractive? What if you ask for a brunette — is that OK?

I married a white woman. Am I a racist? I think so.

I think this Terry dude is a retard, too, so I think I am also a jerk.


68 posted on 04/13/2007 1:46:07 PM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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To: marsapan
they hired strippers...and the writer is ticked because they had the audacity to request a white stripper?

They would have been wrong if they had requested a black stripper also. Because then they would be the well-to-do racist white boys.

69 posted on 04/13/2007 1:47:20 PM PDT by MooseMan (Sarcasm included at no additional charge)
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To: RedCell

Shocking, even from a liberal. I hope he’s never subjected to the kind of ‘justice’ he is advocating.


70 posted on 04/13/2007 2:16:58 PM PDT by beans36
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To: MooseMan

“They would have been wrong if they had requested a black stripper also. Because then they would be the well-to-do racist white boys.”

well,you do have a point there.


71 posted on 04/13/2007 2:26:38 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: Califelephant; RedCell

And a FR thread on Podhoretz’s article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816973/posts


72 posted on 04/13/2007 2:35:02 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: marsapan

probably both.


73 posted on 04/13/2007 2:40:19 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: marsapan
they hired strippers...and the writer is ticked because they had the audacity to request a white stripper?

How dare they deny a hard-working single black mother the chance to support herself!

Or is it "damn them for perpetuating the master/slave paradigm!?"

I can't keep the outrage straight these days.

74 posted on 04/13/2007 2:42:06 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I can't keep the outrage straight these days.

Just so long as you can still get some outrage...it wont matter much

75 posted on 04/13/2007 2:44:38 PM PDT by woofie
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To: RedCell

If the MSM is looking for some folks for whom to feel sorry, check out THIS story the networks somehow just overlooked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_izIyJn84fo&mode=related&search=


76 posted on 04/13/2007 2:45:30 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Vomer

Hey, Terry check this out — when you’re not too busy being a bigot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_izIyJn84fo&mode=related&search=


77 posted on 04/13/2007 2:47:45 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: RedCell
They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

$800 divided by a team of over 40 members is less than $20 a piece. Those lacrosse players were simply swimming in money. /sarc

78 posted on 04/13/2007 3:23:55 PM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: teddyballgame

I found Terry’s email address and gave him a taste of his own medicine...

;-)

Jerk


79 posted on 04/13/2007 3:35:56 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Cicero
I suppose Terry Moran lives a life of uprightness and virtue and has never partied in his life or had a glass of anything alcoholic.

Or hired strippers

80 posted on 04/13/2007 4:33:15 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (btw..Rudy can untie the COUNTRY, not just our precious party... --- ChiTownBearFan 04/10/2007)
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