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DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES
blogs.abcnews.com ^ | 4/12/07 | Terry Moran

Posted on 04/13/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by RedCell

DON'T FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THE DUKIES

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor who pursued a case of rape and kidnapping against three Duke University lacrosse players, has been found to have been reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties according to the state's attorney general. He abused the power the people of Durham granted him. Based on the public record of what he did in this case, he may well be properly disbarred.

The accuser in this case has been shown to be either a vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.

The three young men who she accused are truly innocent of the charges brought against them according to the North Carolina Attorney General and the investigation led by his office.

But perhaps the outpouring of sympathy for Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans is just a bit misplaced. They got special treatment in the justice system--both negative and positive. The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least. And there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country who never get the high-priced legal representation and the high-profile, high-minded vindication that it strikes me as just a bit unseemly to heap praise and sympathy on these particular men.

So as we rightly cover the vindication of these young men and focus on the genuine ordeal they have endured, let us also remember a few other things:

They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.

During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.

Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.

The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them--the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Duke or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success. They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans--or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured:

I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either. They aren't heroes. They aren't boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor--and had the resources the fight him off.

April 12, 2007 | Permalink


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2strippers; 800dollars; pervertparty; strippers
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To: ICU812; admin

My bad. I did a search. Honest. Please don’t sick Nifong on me.

Prepared to have thread pulled in three... two... one!


21 posted on 04/13/2007 12:25:51 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: RedCell

Drudge, I don’t “feel sorry” folks. You, and your ike are passing gas with words like a lot of Iowa libs at the Statehouse...


22 posted on 04/13/2007 12:26:17 PM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: RedCell

Wow... Class Warfare at it’s finest.


23 posted on 04/13/2007 12:26:23 PM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace (Sarcasm - it beats killing people.)
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To: jazusamo

I saw that too. I think that Michele should go after him for calling her a Ho. What does he know about her personal life? NOTHING! He should pay!


24 posted on 04/13/2007 12:27:13 PM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: RedCell
Sounds like Terry Moran wasn't smart enough to get into Duke or any of the other "elite" schools. He therefore assumes that anybody who goes to such a school has it made and never has to work very hard or worry about much of anything as a consequence. What a doofus!

Most of the kids that go to top flight schools work their butts off to get in and then keep up the hard work in order to do well once they are there. You can get a good education at a school like Duke, but you don't get a ticket for a free ride through life.

Sure, these three guys weren't saints. Which of us was in our college days. But they didn't deserve what happened to them, including having some ignoramus like this moralizing over their vindication.

25 posted on 04/13/2007 12:27:27 PM PDT by blau993
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To: RedCell

I suppose Terry Moran lives a life of uprightness and virtue and has never partied in his life or had a glass of anything alcoholic.

Otherwise, by the logic of his article, he would deserve to be falsely accused of rape by a lying prosecutor, fired from his job, and subjected to an judicial abuse and onslaughts from the press and his former colleagues for more than a year.


26 posted on 04/13/2007 12:27:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

Yeah, pretty much had to brush my teeth after reading it.


27 posted on 04/13/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: RedCell
Hey Moran! Can you account for your whereabouts on that night? 'Cause somebody did her! Maybe Nifong can re-open the case with your DNA.
28 posted on 04/13/2007 12:28:23 PM PDT by Thom Pain (8/14/2006 Israel made a HUGH mistake! On Nov 7th we did worse!)
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To: blau993
Sure, these three guys weren't saints. Which of us was in our college days.

Can you imagine the thread if we did one of all our college-day escapades? My goodness. I'd need a whole page myself.
29 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:04 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: RedCell
And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans--or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured:

I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either. They aren't heroes. They aren't boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor--and had the resources the fight him off.

I went to the link to see if something was missing -- a description of prosecutorial misconduct that James Giles endured, but Terry has just left a blank with the colon in front of it.

Hey, Terry: how would you like having your life absolutely ruined. Yes, the Dukies were stupid organizing this party and behaved badly (wow! that's a first for ccollege boys) but does this deserve the ruining of their lives and those of their families? If anything, Terry, this case puts a great big spotlight on prosecutorial misconduct and the many other blemishes in our justice/legal system that will hopefully spare others. When I saw the abcnews.com link I knew this was slanted but it is also deranged.

30 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:08 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: reagandemo

I fault BOR and FNC for letting the POS have any of their air time, the guy uses up perfectly good oxygen.


31 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: RedCell
The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

Which is the only reason they received the delayed justice they did.
32 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:34 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: RedCell
The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

Which, BTW, says more about the court system than it does the accused.
33 posted on 04/13/2007 12:31:22 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: RedCell

Fact is, this was an ordinary, nothing story — until the vote-and-publicity-hungry D.A. hit a series of loud foul balls and the news media exhibited their penchant for the feeding-frenzied, 24/7 style of dogpile reporting we have come to know and abhor. So, for media-types to suddenly assert that this was a “nothing story” rings hollow.
Had they left it alone in the first place, nobody would be making a big deal over the players now. Make your bed and LIE in it.


34 posted on 04/13/2007 12:32:01 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: Dinsdale
DAs are just scumbag lawyers. All they want is a good winning percentage.

I generally believe DAs to be far scummier than the average ambulance chaser, although they're both cut from the same cloth.
35 posted on 04/13/2007 12:35:44 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: RedCell

Don’t sweat it. I just put the link there so people could conveniently find the other thread. There is already a lot of good discussion there.


36 posted on 04/13/2007 12:36:06 PM PDT by ICU812 (Oldtime Freeper, back from a long hiatus)
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To: marsapan

no because probably no woman will get nude in front of him for whatever reason and for whatever amount of cash he offers.


37 posted on 04/13/2007 12:36:11 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: RedCell

John Podhoretz takes Terry apart on NRO’s Corner:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTEzMGY2YmVkNzJkOWE4OGExNWUxMzgxZmRiMjIyMjk=


38 posted on 04/13/2007 12:37:11 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I heard they spend up to $5 million on their defense.


39 posted on 04/13/2007 12:37:13 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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To: RedCell

Another bitter Duke rejectee.


40 posted on 04/13/2007 12:37:22 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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