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British troops take aim at sailors' payouts
Washington Times ^ | 4-13-07 | Al Webb

Posted on 04/13/2007 11:19:21 AM PDT by JZelle

LONDON -- Fellow servicemen and women have turned their fury on the British sailors and marines who sold the stories of their 13 days in captivity in Iran, saying the crew had "embarrassed the nation" and in lining their own pockets had "trampled on the graves of the fallen."

The 14 men and one woman of the frigate HMS Cornwall were criticized heavily on military Internet chat rooms and in a series of postings on two unofficial military Web sites, Rum Ration (www.rumration.co.uk) and British Army Rumour Service (www.arrse.co.uk).

All 15 have come under fire over their filmed activities during captivity, including seemingly carefree scenes of them clad in tracksuits and playing chess and table tennis or watching a soccer match on television -- in sharp contrast to the stories of anguish, threats and maltreatment that they told after they were freed.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: britishhostages; iraqwar; mrbean; yesterday
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Iran must be eating this up
1 posted on 04/13/2007 11:19:21 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

One sailor bitched about having his I-Pod stolen.


2 posted on 04/13/2007 11:25:33 AM PDT by AU72
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Hey they needed the money. If people want your story, make’em pay. That’s just plain capitalism.


3 posted on 04/13/2007 11:27:06 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: AU72
Another got flicked on the neck with a thumb and fore finger repeatedly while being apprehended.
4 posted on 04/13/2007 11:27:59 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: JZelle

Compare and contrast this to the Bataan Death March if you want to see how far we’ve fallen and how honor is now just a word.


5 posted on 04/13/2007 11:30:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Iran delenda est)
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They deserve the opprobrium they’re getting. The result of their actions is to encourage other despots to attack Britains, and they want to profit from that?


6 posted on 04/13/2007 11:31:55 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (I didn't leave the GOP; the GOP left me. But I'll come back if Thompson runs !)
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To: lilylangtree
Hey they needed the money. If people want your story, make’em pay. That’s just plain capitalism.

You haven't a clue, do you?

7 posted on 04/13/2007 11:35:08 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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One of them cried all night when the Iranians told him he looked like Mr. Bean.

Some soldier.


8 posted on 04/13/2007 11:40:07 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: JZelle

It did seem that some of them were rather willing to accept the role of a pawn just on for the ride rather than a representative of British Military.

Regardless of the inability to prevent the situation, I would like to think that I’d feel a tinge of shame, embarassment (and a good deal of anger) at being used that way against my country.


9 posted on 04/13/2007 11:46:48 AM PDT by Sax
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To: AU72
That was Mr. Bean...he also complained the pink goodie bag was full of junk.

I swear to god.

10 posted on 04/13/2007 11:47:01 AM PDT by Dog (Not banned yet...)
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To: WesternPacific

Yes I do. My first thought upon their release was that some if not all would be writing a book. When the news broke that they actually did, what are you going to do? Vilify them? Stress yourself out? Then include everyone who has ever written a bio or an autobio. Or if you find it that reprensible, don’t buy the story when it’s published sending a clear message to the publisher. At this point, the issue is like “water under the bridge” meaning not a thing you can about it.


11 posted on 04/13/2007 11:47:11 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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“It is simply shocking,” fumed one critic on the Rum Ration site. “Get captured (i.e., don’t do your job right) and you make 5 times the average sailor’s salary in one story.”

“Another said that “in the same week as we lost 6 of our soldiers in Iraq, for these people to be given permission to line their pockets is disgusting.” ....

“Yesterday, the bodies of four British soldiers, who were killed in Iraq the same day the 15 sailors and marines of HMS Cornwall were released, were flown home to Britain in coffins.

“Their return was headlined on the London Evening Standard newspaper’s Web site: “The dead soldiers who WON’T be selling their stories.”


12 posted on 04/13/2007 11:47:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Sergeant: Squad... Camp it ... up!

Oooh get her! Whoops!
I've got your number ducky.
You couldn't afford me, dear. Two three.
I'd scratch your eyes out.

Don't come the brigadier bit with us, dear,
We all know where you've been, you military fairy!

Whoops, don't look now girls,
The major's just minced in
With that dolly colour sergeant,
Two, three, ooh-ho!

13 posted on 04/13/2007 11:50:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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Are you sure you're talking about the correct site?????? www.rumration.co.uk

All I saw on the first 3-4 pages was American bashing and blaming us for everything. They're all a bunch of dussies on that site, at least the pages I read. No wonder the hostages did what they did, those on that site are sympathetic to them. Weak-weak-weak.

14 posted on 04/13/2007 11:51:22 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Also, that site...is a big fan of DAILY KOS!!!!!!!


15 posted on 04/13/2007 11:53:35 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Well, well. It seams our fine conservative Brit friends on FR can now direct their defense of the 15s behavior, not at Freepers but at the majority of their own military who find the 15s behavior repugnant.


16 posted on 04/13/2007 11:54:57 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: JZelle
The young seaman complained that during his capture, the Iranians stole his IPod and he conceded that he had cried himself to sleep after his captors nicknamed him "Mr. Bean," a comically nerdish figure in British entertainment.

And where are the human rights groups? Huh? Huh? That kind of torture is uncivilized. Have those Persians no humanity?

17 posted on 04/13/2007 11:56:22 AM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace (Sarcasm - it beats killing people.)
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A British Broadcasting Corp. report quoted Seaman Turney as saying, "I was offered a hell of a lot of money for my story" -- nearly $200,000, by one account -- but "I have not taken the biggest offer. I've gone down ... because I wanted to speak to [the British public] and the Sun because I knew my point would be put across."

The Sun? Pleas tell me they didn't make her a Page 3 Girl.

18 posted on 04/13/2007 11:58:18 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: rbmillerjr
Wading through that site was like wading through DU.

One person tried to fight back and he was called a troll and banned. Here's his post.

Kos rational? ahahaha.

Very sad, Great Britain, very sad. When the only Americans you agree with are the worst left wing nut jobs in America and who would, without a single doubt, abandon Great Britain to her own devices in the future if they could.

Say what you want about the right wing, they are the ones who still retain any sort of kinship with England and affection for her.

Just as you don't expect the left wing in Britain to go to America's aid in any conceivable future, you don't expect the left wing in America to help Britain as well.

Can't you even understand this?

All the social problems that make people so sick of England, the same people in Kos are trying to push them in America.

Very sad, very sad, when HM's website is chock a block with leftist ballbags.

19 posted on 04/13/2007 12:03:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: lilylangtree
Military personnel are not like other people. If they wanted to write a book or seek economic gain from their behaviors as captives, they should wait until they are discharged.

Warrior Ethos

I will always place the mission first

I will never accept defeat

I will never quit

I will never leave a fallen comrade

20 posted on 04/13/2007 12:06:14 PM PDT by WesternPacific
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