Posted on 04/12/2007 2:31:24 PM PDT by TitansAFC
You quoted McCain as saying, Before I left for Iraq, I watched with regret as the House of Representatives voted to deny our troops the support necessary to carry out their new mission. Democratic leaders smiled and cheered as the last votes were counted. What were they celebrating? Defeat? Surrender? In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering." It's worth contrasting that with Giuliani's position:
But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr.Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further. And he has put the strategy in a broader context that plays down the importance of Iraq. Terrorists "are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq," Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that "there are no sure things, "and that if the United States fails in Iraq, "we have to be ready for that, too." In California a few days later, speaking of "the danger of focusing on Iraq too much," he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.
Giuliani has a hawkish image which does not seem to be entirely deserved.
ME: Well, nothing Giuliani said is necessarily objectionable on the merits, but I take your point: he is providing himself more wiggle room than McCain. Romney is basically striking the same tone as Giuliani, by the way.
With one hand Rudy points at himself as strong on terror, and with the other hand he’s hailing a cab. Whatever works politically is where he solidly stands.
I had this guy picked as an unprincipled jack@ss years ago. He'd select Osama bin Laden as his running mate if he thought it would improve his odds of winning.
You didn’t say it, so I did.
The Goodship Rudy
you think the entire iraq war was a wasted exercise in nation building. now you are quick to critcize Rudy for simply have a pragmatic approach thay simply says “hey, if this doesn’t work out, the US war on terror goes on regardless”.
If he’s not strong on the war, then I have no reason to vote for him. He’s a strong leader, but I will not follow him on any of the social positions he has laid down.
Well actually the article, to which I was referring, said it.
Why did you ping me to this? I’m not a “Rudybot,” as you so rudely say.
Don’t ping me anymore.
I pinged you because I understand you and jellybean handle a Thompson pinglist.
Also, the term Rudybot is in an italicized quote. It was not a reference made by me, and was not a reference to you.
Sorry, hon, I thought you’d be interested.
What?
Failure to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq will not lose the WOT?
I'm posting these statements on this thread just as a reminder for all of those folks who told me months ago I was crazy for even suggesting that Giuliani would eventually turn his back on the Iraq war.
Cheers,
AC
Looks like somebody has a case of the moooondays.
Apparently anyone who doesn't hurl the ugliest abuse at Guiliani on every thread regardless of subject is a "Rudybot." Get with the program.
He appears to be taking your position.
People who vehemently defend the liberal policies of that liberal scumbag Giuliani are generally labelled that way. Deal.
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