Posted on 04/12/2007 2:31:24 PM PDT by TitansAFC
You quoted McCain as saying, Before I left for Iraq, I watched with regret as the House of Representatives voted to deny our troops the support necessary to carry out their new mission. Democratic leaders smiled and cheered as the last votes were counted. What were they celebrating? Defeat? Surrender? In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering." It's worth contrasting that with Giuliani's position:
But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr.Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further. And he has put the strategy in a broader context that plays down the importance of Iraq. Terrorists "are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq," Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that "there are no sure things, "and that if the United States fails in Iraq, "we have to be ready for that, too." In California a few days later, speaking of "the danger of focusing on Iraq too much," he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.
Giuliani has a hawkish image which does not seem to be entirely deserved.
ME: Well, nothing Giuliani said is necessarily objectionable on the merits, but I take your point: he is providing himself more wiggle room than McCain. Romney is basically striking the same tone as Giuliani, by the way.
While Rudy was absolutely out in the primary, I was still debating whether or not I would vote for him if he got the nod. Now, he appears to be coming out against the war on Iraq. The man would make a good VP for the Hildabeast.
Yep, and when pressed for specifics about fighting Islamofascists, he’ll play up tough crimefighting measures (i.e., defensive measures).
The truth or lack thereof in his statement is almost irrelevant. What public figures say in a time of war significantly affects the progress of the war itself. It was not only stupid of Rudy to say what he said in the way he said it; it is also potentially harmful to our war effort.
In our US military doctrine, losing a war is unthinkable. Giuliani is not competent to be a commander-in-chief.
Prepare for Failure in Iraq
The night before, he said that "there are no sure things, "and that if the United States fails in Iraq, "we have to be ready for that, too." In California a few days later, speaking of "the danger of focusing on Iraq too much," he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.
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More Troops May Mean nothing
But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr.Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further.
How is that innacurate?
YOU POSTED: The leftwing mayor is barely more hawkish than Hitlery. And he's being awfully cagey about actually delivering a solid foreign policy speech in public. In fact, he's extremely secretive and controlling in any major policy speech.
Yup, you nailed it but good---Rooty's campaign strategy in a nutshell. Like practiced conmen, Rudiani and the cons keep the suckers guessing.
Julie-Annie does have a plan...
Create a welfare plantation for illegals and take away the means for citizens to defend themselves from the invasion...
Julie-Annie's plan (in a nutshell)...
Create a welfare plantation for illegals and take away the means for citizens to defend themselves from the invasion...
In Rootys insular mind, rights and freedoms are what HE says they are. The lisping Little Emperor doesnt give a fig about the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights.
HE says abortion is a "constitutional (gag) right. (So much for Rooty's strict constructionist judicial appointments).
And thats not all. Rudeo knows zilch about US history, as well.
Rooty stupidly asserts 2A was formulated for hunters. That alone disqualifies The Rudester from sitting at the levers of government.
I don’t typically respond to people who call women whores, but I’ll make an exception this once.
Here’s the Rudy poll that puts him at 61%, so you might want to take back that liar comment. Not that you have the class to do it.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816219/posts?page=28#28
Class all the way. No wonder you were suspended for a week.
I never called anyone a whore you freakin liar!
Why is popularity in polls so important to you when we’re nine months away from the primary?
every time Rudy opens his mouth,
I like what he has to say even less...
I sure wish Cheney’s health were better!
Bumping that. Things are hard in Iraq, but they are hardly unbearable. We suffered more losses in the occupation of the Philippines than we have in Iraq, and we eventually won, but people are getting a distorted message about what things are like and the public at large are just tired of it. It's pathetic, but that's what we have come to-we need to regain the will to win.
Grr. I know. Thanks for pinging me on that. Here is what I hear, from the soldiers I have had a chance to talk to:
1.) It is not a picnic.
2.) Most of the people don’t hate us...some like us...some are indifferent.
3.) What we hear and see on the news and in the media over HERE is NOTHING what it is normally like over THERE.
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