[TexConfederate1861]

In Memory of the Gallant Southern Soldiers who died defending their Constitutional Rights!

[SF Republican]

GLORY

[CurlyBill]

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[stainlessbanner]

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[HostileTerritory]

Although they had been confined inside Fort Sumter for more than three months, unsupplied and poorly nourished, the men of the Union garrison vigorously defended their post from the Confederate bombardment that began on the morning of April 12, 1861. Several times, red-hod cannonballs had lodged in the fort's wooden barracks and started fires. But each time, the Yankee soldiers, with a little help from an evening rainstorm, had extinguished the flames.

Can you imagine it? All Americans can agree to respect the bravery and courage of U.S. soldiers in the face of this attack.

[Sherman Logan]

Believing a conflict to be inevitable, Lincoln ingeniously devised a plan that would cause the Confederates to fire the first shot and thus, he hoped, inspire the states that had not yet seceded to unite in the effort to restore the Union.

Meanwhile, Davis ingeniously devised a plan that would cause unseceded slave states to spring to the defense of their southern brothers.

Each plan was about 50% effective. There were eight unseceded slave states on April 12, 1865. Four promptly seceded. Four eventually remained in the Union. One slave state, Virginia, itself split in two.

[colorado tanker]

Toured Fort Sumter last summer, as well as visiting the Hunley and the Charleston historic district. Well worth a visit.

[theFIRMbss]

[Fiji Hill]

Google is celebrating not Fort Sumter, but the flight of the Soviet satellite Vostok I, which took place on this date in 1961.

[cyborg]

BANG!

[Ditto]

Written by "Unknown?" LOL. Any of the neo-confederate revisionists on this board could have written that.

Here's another take on it by me.

On March 5, 1861, the day after his inauguration as president of the United States, Abraham Lincoln received a message from Maj. Robert Anderson, commander of the U.S. troops holding Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor. The message stated that there was less than a six week supply of food left in the fort.

Attempts by the Union government to reason with the Cotton states were spurned by the Fire-eating radicals who felt they could no longer tolerate the results of free and fair elections that did not go as they wanted. Believing a collapse of his confederacy to be inevitable as post-elections passions cooled, Jefferson Davis ingeniously devised a plan that would cause the all important Upper South States of North Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia to reverse their decisions to remain loyal to the Union, while at the same time avoiding the inevitable second thoughts as to the wisdom of secession among the non-slaveholding population of the seven Deep South states.

Against the strong advice of Senior members of his cabinet, Davis ordered Confederate troops in Charleston to open fire on the vastly out manned Union troops stationed at Fort Sumter. Davis fully understood that firing on the American flag would force the Northern states to respond, but saw that action as the only way to prevent his untenable little slave republic from slowly dissolving as the people of the South came to realize that contrary to the never ending radical propaganda of the fire-eating wealthy slave-owning aristocrats, Lincoln did not present a threat to the "institutions" of the South.

[P8riot]

We are a band of brothers,
Native to the soil
Fighting for the property
We gained by honest toil.
And when our rights were threatened,
The cry rose near and far;
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star!

chorus:
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Southern rights, Hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star!

As long as the Union
Was faithful to her trust,
Like friends and brethren,
kind were we, and just;
But now, when Northern treachery
Attempts our rights to mar,
We hoist on high the Bonnie Blue flag
That bears a single star.

First gallant South Carolina
Nobly made the stand,
Then came Alabama
And took her by the hand;
Next, quickly, Mississippi,
Georgia, and Florida,
All raised on high the Bonnie Blue flag
That bears a single star.

Ye men of valor gather round
The banner of the right,
Texas and fair Louisiana
Join us in the fight;
Davis, our loved President,
And Stephens statesmen are;
Now rally round the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star.

And here's to brave Virginia,
The Old Dominion State.
With the young Confederacy
At length has linked her fate.
Impelled by her example,
Now other States prepare
To hoist on high the Bonnie Blue flag
That bears a single star.

Then here's to our Confederacy,
Strong we are and brave,
Like patriots of old we'll fight,
Our heritage to save.
And rather than submit to shame,
To die we would prefer
So cheer for the Bonnie Blue flag
That bears a single star.

Then cheer, boys, cheer,
Raise a joyous shout
For Arkansas and North Carolina
Now have both gone out;
And let another rousing cheer
For Tennessee be given
The single star of the Bonnie Blue Flag
Has grown to be eleven!

[wireman]

April 12, 1861 The War Between The States Begins!

Around here it still hasn't ended.

Amazing!

[jmaroneps37]

My great great grand uncle Peter Hollenbeck fought the rebels with the 44th New York Reg. It’s funny how the goods and bad guys have switched places since Uncle Peter signed up. I don’t believe we would be better off if the Confederacy had won, but I do believe that they were far from totally wrong in their stance.

[LeoWindhorse]

the South should have won

[N. Theknow]

The first shots of the Civil War occurred when the Star of the West was fired upon by Cadets of the Military College of South Carolina; The Citadel (from Battery Greg on Morris Island) on January 9, 1861.

This prevented the Star of the West from resupplying Major Robert Anderson's garrison at Fort Sumter.

The Star of the West was given a warning bowshot but continued towards Fort Sumter.

She was then fired on and hit twice at which point she turned around and headed for home port.

Note that this did not start a war even though she was under the Stars and Stripes.

The Citadel has a drill competition for 4th Classmen (aka: knobs, smackheads, maggots, etc.) which is the Star of the West Award.

[Fiji Hill]

DIXIE

Southrons, hear your country call you,
Up, lest worse than death befall you!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Lo! all the beacon-fires are lighted,—
Let all hearts be now united!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!

Advance the flag of Dixie!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie’s land we take our stand,
And live or die for Dixie!
To arms! To arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie!
To arms! To arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie!

Oh Hear the Northern thunders mutter!
Northern flags in South winds flutter!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Send them back your fierce defiance!
Stamp upon the cursed alliance!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!

Chorus

Fear no danger! Shun no labor!
Lift up rifle, pike, and sabre!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Shoulder pressing close to shoulder,
Let the odds make each heart bolder!
To arms! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!

Chorus

[potlatch]

ping - historic date!

[Constantine XIII]

This whole thread is a Nuclear LOLocaust just waiting to happen.

PROTIP: One of the many reasons the US rules the world is that we don't refight wars that happened a century and a half ago

[stand watie]

here's another.

free dixie,sw