BURN HER!!!!!
Posted on 04/12/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God."
The Brody File has dug up a Rudy quote from the past that makes for an interesting discussion. In a 1994 New York Times article, Rudy said this:
"As the Mayor of New York City, I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God -- because I realize that my right to practice my religion depends completely on my commitment to defend someone else's right to practice theirs, or to practice no religion at all."
The article goes on to mention his views on Catholicism.
"Mr. Giuliani, who as a young man once considered joining the priesthood, noted that many Catholics today "feel that in some intellectual or quasi-intellectual circles, they are demeaned." He said he had also heard Catholics say that "Catholic-bashing has become part of the dogma of what they regard as the politically correct." And he said: "Indeed, I do detect among some who accept the most recent intellectual fads a disdain for those who share in the more orthodox faiths, whether Christian or Jewish or Muslim. In my humble opinion -- and this is meant as an observation, not a challenge -- that disdain emerges from an almost subconscious conclusion that to believe in God too fervently betrays a certain intellectual infirmity." He compared such a view with the "difficult time that some believers have in drawing the line between belief in dogma and respect for those who disagree." He called for believers and unbelievers alike to avoid "the arrogance of having no doubts."
Read the rest of the article here. It's interesting to hear Rudy talk about his faith. Clearly, there is a deeper story there. It makes me wonder what his upbringing was like and how his Catholic faith helped shaped who he is today. It's something worth exploring. I interview Giuliani next week. Maybe I'll pursue this with him. Got questions for him? Email them to me.
Then let’s unite behind a genuine conservative for the primary instead of settling for someone who’s just one inch to the right of Hillabama.
Name recognition won’t be a problem to the nominees. It’ll come by virtue of the fact they’re the nominees.
Well, ok. I'll do whatever I can to get Hillar... err I mean Duncan Hunter elected. Fair enough?
Did you ever object to JimRob tossing liberal Dems off FR when they tried to post here?
Whoever wins the GOP nomination will have earned it. And whoever it is, will crush the weakling appeaser democrat.
In this political climate, that inch could make all the difference. That being said, a "President Hunter" sound pretty cool. I could be persuaded to support Hunter, certainly, but he's really got to step it up.
That being said, if we could ensure a takeover of congress/senate with a good majority again, then who is elected president becomes less important to me.
You got that right.
This is going to be a highly entertaining (and dare I say it, historical) primary season.
Buckle up!
And I’d be happy with that, certainly.
It didn’t. I am simply addressing areafiftyone’s comment about the corruption of this thread and agreeing with him—it’s corrupted—from the liberal propaganda that’s been posted here.
It's like everything else liberals believe in - they also want to control what you even think about NON believers. They'll soon add it to hate crimes.
The problem you have with that argument is Jim Rob knows I'm a conservative.
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Honestly. I can't vote for this fool.
Did you read the full article linked in the thread, or did you just read the title?
There is no cure.
Kindly explain how that quote bothers you.
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“The problem you have with that argument is Jim Rob knows I’m a conservative.”
Oh really? Are you assuming this to be true, or do you have any posts from him that could back this up?
Since you seem so afraid of a Hillary presidency, why don’t we look at some historical facts:
1. Since the start of the Twentieth Century, ONLY TWO non-incumbent Democrats who were the “clear frontrunners” over a year out from the nomination have actually been nominated. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956) and Algore (2000) — both of whom lost.
2. The last non-incumbent Democrat who was the “clear frontrunner” a year out from the nomination to actually get nominated and win the presidency was Grover Cleveland in 1892. However, Grover Cleveland falls into an odd categore, he had already served a term as president (he won the 1884 election and lost in 1888) and the significance of that is below.
3. The last non-incumbent Democrat who was the “clear frontrunner” a year out from the nomination and had never been president before to actually get nominated and win the presidency (and this is the category that Hillary is in) was Andrew Jackson in 1828.
The problem is with your argument is that the person you are supporting has a huge number of liberal positions and past actions that, if they were in a Democrat, you would oppose instead of spin away.
Here is a question wagglebee has asked before:
If I referred to an anonymous candidate and I did not give you their party affiliation but gave you the following information:
- The candidate believes in the "right" to abortion, including partial birth abortion and that taxpayers should pay for some abortions.
- The candidate believes in the "right" of homosexuals to have a legal union that resembles marriage.
- The candidate believes in the "right" of illegal aliens to illegally enter and remain in our country.
- The candidate believes government has the "right" to modify the Second Amendment of the Constitution at will to curtail the right to keep and bear arms.
If this was the ONLY information you had, would your conclusion be that this unnamed candidate was a conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat?
BURN HER!!!!!
“The problem you have with that argument is Jim Rob knows I’m a conservative.”
Oh really? Are you assuming this to be true, or do you have any posts from him that could back this up?
Why don’t you ask him. This is a big conservative tent and if you don’t like my point of view on some topics, argue with me. People that threaten expulsion from FR because they disagree with you on something make themselves look bad. If you don’t know me personally as a poster, I can’t help that. I’m not going to go back and reconstruct my years here on FR to defend myself to you.
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