Posted on 04/12/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce
Why? Between the release of 10.1 (the first usable OS X, it was a free upgrade because of 10.0 problems) and the inability of Macs to boot OS 9 was about a year. I don't remember ME and XP existing together in the OEM chain for long either. Having a year overlap in the OEM channels sounds just right, if not generous, to me. Remember, retail XP will likely be available for a while after that.
the first Vista laptop showed up at the office yesterday. we tried to run some common applications - *all* of them went belly up. the owner is now insisting we either install Windows XP if it has the drivers for the newish hardware on the laptop. if it doesn’t - he says he’s ready to try Ubuntu or Fedora Core 6.
I had some brief work engagements on DG-UX, IBM-AIX and DEC Unix. The initial efforts to port to a true 64-bit machine were real eye openers in 1991. That stuff was just too early to market and died an appropriately early death. It's time to start looking at that genre again with the advent of more commonplace 64-bit machines.
Just curious.... what distro’s were you loading that you had such problems with?
I couldn’t be happier with both MEPIS and SUSE 10.2....they both installed very quickly...and totally without drama.
As for the ME thing, MS was wrong there as well ME was *CRAP* but once you start pushing it you need to keep it around a bit when there are other alternatives so large organizations can migrate.
“I’ve been in the Unix business since 1980. Adjusting to the variants in the market in just part of being a competent player. “
my post does not then, apply to you. I am talking about the other 95% of people who are looking for a home solution.
anyone looking to use Vista for business obviously is getting bad advice :-)
and to taxed2death - redhat and SUSE. albeit not recently.
“Apple also sells their own systems not just the OS”
I have an Apple IPOD. I have not tried OSX, but having used Itunes, I am scared to death of an Apple OS. ( and I do OS support for a living :-)
Why? if you had trouble with a zune would you swear off windows?
In those cases the OEM OS usually doesn't matter. Although they probably exist, I haven't seen a large organization that didn't have its own image for the computers it buys. The first thing that happens is that the OEM-provided OS goes away.
Finally OS9 was a dog and had to die, that being said apple should have left it at the vets a bit longer before putting her down.
They did, in the Classic environment. You just couldn't boot straight to OS 9. The modern version of that is a VM.
“Why? if you had trouble with a zune would you swear off windows?”
LOL. no, but most people, having used Windows, have sworn off Zune :-)
I will never upgrade to Vista from XP. Never.
As a long-time user of Red Hat's distros, I can attest that they have come quite far in both installation and usability just in the last few years.
Fedora Core is now the consumer version, and I use it all the time. The only tweak I still have to perform on a new install is wireless access, but it's not a big deal to do (<5 mins).
There are other distros out there designed to be easy to use, and even some are quite windows-like. Do some research on various distros, and try one that looks interesting.
OS X? As of Leopard it will be a completely 64-bit BSD variant (performance-sensitive libraries already are 64-bit).
heh--I never upgraded from Windows 2000.
Just to clarify:
That quote you attributed to me was made by someone else..
re: redhat...I’m running RH9 on an old pooter to use with BRL-CAD. I agree RH was a PITA to set up.
re: SUSE.. for some reason...I have found the latest version of SUSE (10.2 I believe)...much easier installing then previous versions.
Well, we had to look hard for it...., but we can be in complete harmony on this issue, if nothing else! Mepis so very ROCKS!
Long live Windows 2000 Pro. Works on practically any program written for Windows and I have the disc with code so I can reinstall it whenever I need. I just make sure *never* to visit Microsoft so they can’t update it with spyware and crapware.
What are you doing in Eve? 0.0 alliance warfare is going to take up a lot more computing power than Mining in empire.
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