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Letter to algore by award-winning climate scientist

Posted on 04/07/2007 1:39:22 PM PDT by OKSooner

LETTER BY DR. ROY W. SPENCER, CLIMATE SCIENTIST

Dr. Spencer is the recipient of NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement and the American Meteorological Society's Special Award for his satellite-based temperature monitoring work.

Dear Mr. Gore:

I have just seen your new movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," about the threat that global warming presents to humanity. I think you did a very good job of explaining global warming theory, and your presentation was effective. Please convey my compliments to your good friend, Laurie David, for a job well done. As a climate scientist myself -- you might remember me: I'm the one you mistook for your "good friend," UK scientist Phil Jones during my congressional testimony some years back -- I have a few questions that occurred to me while watching the movie.

1) Why did you make it look like hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, droughts, and ice calving off of glaciers and falling into the ocean, are only recent phenomena associated with global warming? You surely know that hurricane experts have been warning congress for many years that the natural cycle in hurricanes would return some day, and that our built-up coastlines were ripe for a disaster (like Katrina, which you highlighted in the movie). And as long as snow continues to fall on glaciers, they will continue to flow downhill toward the sea.

Yet you made it look like these things wouldn't happen if it weren't for global warming. Also, since there are virtually no measures of severe weather showing a recent increase, I assume those graphs you showed actually represented damage increases, which are well known to be simply due to greater population and wealth. Is that right?

2) Why did you make it sound like all scientists agree that climate change is manmade and not natural? You mentioned a recent literature review study that supposedly found no peer-reviewed articles that attributed climate change to natural causes (a non-repeatable study which has since been refuted....I have a number of such articles in my office!). You also mentioned how important it is to listen to scientists when they warn us, yet surely you know that almost all past scientific predictions of gloom and doom have been wrong. How can we trust scientists' predictions now?

3) I know you still must feel bad about the last presidential election being stolen from you, but why did you have to make fun of Republican presidents (Reagan; both Bushes) for their views on global warming? The points you made in the movie might have had wider appeal if you did not alienate so many moviegoers in this manner.

4) Your presentation showing the past 650,000 years of atmospheric temperature and carbon dioxide reconstructions from ice cores was very effective. But I assume you know that some scientists view the CO2 increases as the result of, rather than the cause of, past temperature increases. It seems unlikely that CO2 variations have been the dominant cause of climate change for hundreds of thousands of years. And now that there is a new source of carbon dioxide emissions (people), those old relationships are probably not valid anymore. Why did you give no hint of these alternative views?

5) When you recounted your 6-year-old son's tragic accident that nearly killed him, I thought that you were going to make the point that, if you had lived in a poor country like China or India , your son would have probably died. But then you later held up these countries as model examples for their low greenhouse gas emissions, without mentioning that the only reason their emissions were so low was because people in those countries are so poor. I'm confused...do you really want us to live like the poor people in India and China ?

6) There seems to be a lot of recent concern that more polar bears are drowning these days because of disappearing sea ice. I assume you know that polar bears have always migrated to land in late summer when sea ice naturally melts back, and then return to the ice when it re-freezes.

Also, if this was really happening, why did the movie have to use a computer-generated animation of the poor polar bear swimming around looking for ice? Haven't there been any actual observations of this happening? Also, temperature measurements in the arctic suggest that it was just as warm there in the 1930s...before most greenhouse gas emissions. Don't you ever wonder whether sea ice concentrations back then were low, too?

7) Why did you make it sound like simply signing on to the Kyoto Protocol to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions would be such a big step forward, when we already know it will have no measurable effect on global temperatures anyway? And even though it represents such a small emission reduction, the economic pain Kyoto causes means that almost no developed country will be meeting its emission reductions commitments under that treaty, as we are now witnessing in Europe.

8) At the end of the movie, you made it sound like we can mostly fix the global warming problem by conserving energy... you even claimed we can reduce our carbon emissions to zero. But I'm sure you know that this will only be possible with major technological advancements, including a probable return to nuclear power as an energy source. Why did you not mention this need for technological advancement and nuclear power? Is it because that would support the current (Republican) Administration's view?

Mr. Gore, I think we can both agree that if it was relatively easy for mankind to stop emitting so much carbon dioxide, that we should do so. You are a very smart person, so I can't understand why you left so many important points unmentioned, and you made it sound so easy.

I wish you well in these efforts, and I hope that humanity will make the right choices based upon all of the information we have on the subject of global warming. I agree with you that global warming is indeed a "moral issue," and if we are to avoid doing more harm than good with misguided governmental policies, we will need more politicians to be educated on this.

Sincerely,

Your "Good Friend, Dr. Roy W. Spencer "

He is the author of numerous scientific articles that have appeared in Science, Nature, Journal of Climate, Monthly Weather Review, Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Technology, Journal of Climate and Applied Meteorology, Remote Sensing Reviews, Advances in Space Research, and Climatic Change.

Dr.Spencer received his Ph.D. in Meteorology from the University of Wisconsin in 1981


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KEYWORDS: algore; convenientfiction; convenientlie; globalwarming
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But there’s a scientific consensus!

Somebody take away his secret decoder ring!

Mark


61 posted on 04/07/2007 6:38:21 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: avacado
"Al Gore should be made to stand outside all damn night with just a t-shirt and shorts."

What a disgusting mental image.

62 posted on 04/07/2007 6:47:40 PM PDT by NTegraT (There are two things certain: Death and Texas.)
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To: Combat_Liberalism
"substituting “climate change” for Global Warming."

I think of all the people who say they don't want to live in the balmy south because they like the change of seasons. HA! Evidently not, they blame any fluctuation on global (gorbull) warming.

63 posted on 04/07/2007 6:50:23 PM PDT by NTegraT (There are two things certain: Death and Texas.)
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To: Screamname

Yesterday, or day before, Sioux Falls, SD posted its all time LOWEST high temperature for any date in the month of April.


64 posted on 04/07/2007 7:19:08 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Screamname
A record was also set recently for coldest temp EVER in Alaska. Maybe Al can explain to me where all those melting glaciers are.

Cold!? Check this out Minus 148 Degrees

65 posted on 04/07/2007 7:22:12 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Global Warming causes increased evaporation, which leads to more clouds & lower temperatures at ground level, giving more rain & snow.

Like in the 1970s, when Global Cooling resulted in us cooking in our own juices, Global Warming makes us shiver our timbers.

Argh, Matey, does ye ken it now?

66 posted on 04/07/2007 7:24:08 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
That was supposed 1/4 inch of rain, not 1.4”.

Thanks for the correction. I was about to have my head explode from extreme jealousy. Were in the seventh year of drought, missing one full year's worth of normal rainfall over that period.

67 posted on 04/07/2007 7:30:30 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Our wild turkeys were wading knee deep in snow yesterday, too.

Icicles hanging in front of the kitchen windows are over 2 feet long; some well over.

Our temps are running about 25F below seasonal normal, and setting several all time records.


68 posted on 04/07/2007 7:37:19 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: OKSooner

Pingeroo!


69 posted on 04/07/2007 7:41:28 PM PDT by ssaftler (Giuliani (R): A real putz. Giuliani (D): A nice guy... West Palm Beach, FL, 4/2007)
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To: OKSooner

The article made sense until-

“Mr. Gore...You are a very smart person”


70 posted on 04/07/2007 8:56:23 PM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Were in the seventh year of drought, missing one full year's worth of normal rainfall over that period.

We were in drought conditions all last year, but had quite a lot the start of this year. Our lake was 40 feet low, and is less than 15 feet low now. We've had over 13 inches this year, which is about +7 inches.

71 posted on 04/08/2007 5:59:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: OKSooner

He’s trying to talk sense to a zealot.

It won’t work. Let me read the rest of the thread.


72 posted on 04/08/2007 10:49:01 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Does Al know that cow farts and their methane gas contribute more to gorebull warning than every car and truck in America?

PETA tried to tell him to become a vegetarian but he ignored the “inconvenient truth” that Methane is 23 times worse than CO2 in contributing to greenhouse gas emissions.


73 posted on 04/08/2007 10:53:26 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: OKSooner

Quite the urbane, sophisticated, smack-down.

Yee ha!


74 posted on 04/08/2007 10:56:49 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: OKSooner

Good for this guy. Gore is utterly laughable.


75 posted on 04/08/2007 11:02:06 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: rock58seg
I am willing to accede the Earth may be warming. To deny that would fly into the face of historical data.

Don't be so quick to believe the Earth is warming. There is a great deal of research recently to refute the IPCC's laughable contention that the Urban Heat Island (UHI) Effect is negligible. Much of the apparent recent warming may well be really the misleading effect of a high percentage of measuring stations being in or near growing population centers. If properly corrected for in the temperature record, temperature rise graphs may show a much smaller rise. In fact some of the UHI studies suggest that UHI effect may account for most of the apparent rise in recent decades. Also, there are great efforts to strutinize temperature reconstructions from various proxies, particularly the reconstructions used by the IPCC. Read Climate Audit for wonderful discussions on using various species of trees and their ringwidths and whether or not these are truly reliable temperature reconstructions. Steve McIntyre gives a Herculean effort to "audit" the IPCC scientists and their methods, and he finds disturbingly bad methods and choices of trees, which fundamentally call into question the veracity of the IPCC's temperature graphs.

Many is the time that the posters of Climate Audit find IPCC-related agencies "changing the past" temperature records. I have seen them change temperature records from the 1930's (possibly the warmest decade in recent times) by a half-degree celcius from one day to the next. Some of these groups regularly post-edit temperature records from decades ago, usually to the effect of making the past cooler than it was.

The Earth may ultimately be warming, but it may not be either. Right now we just don't know, and many of the so-called leading scientists are not being entirely honest.
76 posted on 04/08/2007 5:42:18 PM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

We only get it on the weekends - gives me something to read (sports page) while doing my morning constitutional on Saturday and Sunday a.m. Mrs. Greens won’t let me move the family computer into those friendly confines! Laptop from the employer does not get good reception adjacent to the throne either! During the week, I will gaze at the on line version.


77 posted on 04/08/2007 6:15:08 PM PDT by greens
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To: OKSooner

Lemme guess — from TechCentral Station?


78 posted on 04/09/2007 8:11:32 AM PDT by cogitator
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