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Commentary: What would Jesus really do?
CNN ^ | Apr 6, 2007 | Roland Martin

Posted on 04/06/2007 1:40:34 PM PDT by driftdiver

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

Ask the nonreligious what being a Christian today means, and based on what we see and read, it's a good bet they will say that followers of Jesus Christ are preoccupied with those two points.

Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial. Divorce? The divorce rate of Christians mirrors the national average, so that's no big deal.

The point is that being a Christian should be about more than abortion and homosexuality, and it's high time that those not considered a part of the religious right expose the hypocrisy of our brothers and sisters in Christianity and take back the faith. And those on the left who believe they have a "get out of sin free" card must not be allowed to justify their actions.

Many people believe we are engaged in a holy war. And we are. But it's not with Muslims. The real war -- ­ the silent war ­-- is being engaged among Christians, and that's what we must set our sights on.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; aids; antichristian; atheist; culturewar; goodfriday; grinchstoleeaster; ifitfeelsgooddoit; jesus; liberalbigot; poverty; religiousintolerance
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To: driftdiver; HarleyD; TommyDale; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; shaggy eel; My2Cents; jumpdrive; ...
I don't think this guy gets it.

I doubt it too, if he asked Rick Warren to comment authoritatively on the subject...

Rick Warren among CNN Guests who Answer ‘What Would Jesus Really Do?‘

81 posted on 04/10/2007 12:46:15 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Lost Highway

They’re the masters of false dichotomy. Either you are a good-christian-social-liberal-social-gospel-promoter, or you care ONLY about abortion and homosexuality. These people should go take a hike. Rick Warren is getting on that social gospel bandwagon too, even while insisting that ‘the old social gospel is just Christian marxism.’ He denounces the very things he promotes by different names.


82 posted on 04/10/2007 12:48:10 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: spunkets
He gets it. That’s why he fabricated the con and CNN put it up.

He said:
establish a call to arms on racism, AIDS, police brutality, a national health care policy, our sorry education system. If they all say they love and worship one God, one Jesus, let's see them rally their members behind one agenda.

With this quote, you really think he gets it? Sounds kinda social gospel ecumenicism, one world churchy to me.

83 posted on 04/10/2007 12:54:10 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: driftdiver
If you concur, it's time to stop allowing a chosen few to speak for the masses. Quit letting them define the agenda.

HUH? That IS the agenda they're defining! D'oh!

84 posted on 04/10/2007 12:54:47 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
the differance between a cafetaria christian and a fundamental belever.

...is....?

85 posted on 04/10/2007 12:55:25 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: bmwcyle

You forgot none of the above.


86 posted on 04/10/2007 12:55:49 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: SmithL
Roland Martin? He was much funnier when he did Laugh-In.

I thought he was a professional bass fisherman.

Fishing with Roland Martin

87 posted on 04/10/2007 12:56:55 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: SkyPilot

AMEN!!!! Great post.


88 posted on 04/10/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: JSDude1

thank you for your astute comments!


89 posted on 04/10/2007 12:58:32 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: weegee
When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

You have to wonder how it would sound if we substituted the real definitive terms in for these which have become euphemisms for abominable behavior. Let's see:

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ MURDER and SEX ABUSE?

90 posted on 04/10/2007 1:00:08 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: driftdiver; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; metmom
I don't think this guy gets it. Also, note the Quick Vote on the left margin.

I agree, and I did: "If Jesus lived today, what do you think would be his top priority?" You get five choices: abortion, homosexuality, poverty, global warming, and AIDS. There should have been a sixth choice: "None of the above."

For the progressive Left, all things are political, including religion (if it has to be tolerated at all). Yet in neither the Old nor the New Testament do we find any statement with regard to politics or political organization. The "poverty" of the New Testament is not something to escape, it is something to embrace: because the poverty spoken of there is not material want, but poverty of spirit, which is humility before God....

In this election cycle, the Left is working overtime to co-opt Christian symbols, to twist and convert the spiritual into secular meanings. It will be interesting to see how many people actually get fooled by this.

Again driftdiver, I completely agree with you that "this guy doesn't get it." And if he really did get it, and still speaks as he does, then he is no Christian. And it doesn't matter whether he wears a pastor's collar or not.

91 posted on 04/10/2007 1:00:19 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: Sherman Logan
While many of the judges nominated by Clinton may have been, or claimed to be, Christians, I seriously doubt of them were ever opposed by Republicans because they were Christians.

I was thinking the same thing when I read that. He obviously looks at externals to define Christianity, which proves that he himself is only an external Christian, looking at fleshly priorities like Judas whining "this ointment might have better been sold and the money given to the poor!"

92 posted on 04/10/2007 1:01:40 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: weegee
Actually the way I hear it, couples who pray together have a much lower divorce rate.

One would also have to figure out how they define "Christian" in this survey.

93 posted on 04/10/2007 1:02:21 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Sherman Logan
An excellent point.

An excellent point, if the term 'Christian' is defined correctly. Not that a divorce is less sinful if they aren't Christian, but the point he was trying to make is that Christians are just as likely to do it as non-Christians.

94 posted on 04/10/2007 1:03:28 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: metesky
The Quick Vote gives us all a chance to pretend we know the mind of God.

I'm annoyed that he didn't include 'none of the above' or 'salvation' or at least 'truth.'

I'm not sure where you're coming from on the 'pretending to know the mind of God" comment. Care to elaborate?

95 posted on 04/10/2007 1:04:58 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: bmwcyle
Then who is on the thrown of David in the Temple right before his return?

I think this will get into the debate between Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism... which isn't quite the focus of this thread.

96 posted on 04/10/2007 1:05:59 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Brilliant
Not only that, but the implication is that Jesus is dead.

I can't believe I didn't catch that. d'oh! Good one.

97 posted on 04/10/2007 1:06:38 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Condor 63
And just for a clue abortion and homosexuality are two of the biggest abominations that the secular left constantly jams in the Christian face. Of course it appears they are reacting to that more than the others. They have to.

Excellent point. And just to distract from that point, they are now going to start waving other issues in our face, like the fact that we shallow Christians all want dirty water for the poor, as proved by the fact that we disapprove of raising taxes. (sigh)

98 posted on 04/10/2007 1:08:16 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: weegee

Interesting poll. No choices for: Love God; Love your neighbor; Forgive others; Seek forgiveness from God for your sins; Do unto others as you would have them do unto you; Pray in the way He taught us...

These are the primary concerns. Only then do worldly concerns get


99 posted on 04/10/2007 1:08:58 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Teaching people to achieve inner peace.

Um... How would he go about this?

100 posted on 04/10/2007 1:09:07 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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