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Commentary: What would Jesus really do?
CNN ^ | Apr 6, 2007 | Roland Martin

Posted on 04/06/2007 1:40:34 PM PDT by driftdiver

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

Ask the nonreligious what being a Christian today means, and based on what we see and read, it's a good bet they will say that followers of Jesus Christ are preoccupied with those two points.

Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial. Divorce? The divorce rate of Christians mirrors the national average, so that's no big deal.

The point is that being a Christian should be about more than abortion and homosexuality, and it's high time that those not considered a part of the religious right expose the hypocrisy of our brothers and sisters in Christianity and take back the faith. And those on the left who believe they have a "get out of sin free" card must not be allowed to justify their actions.

Many people believe we are engaged in a holy war. And we are. But it's not with Muslims. The real war -- ­ the silent war ­-- is being engaged among Christians, and that's what we must set our sights on.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; aids; antichristian; atheist; culturewar; goodfriday; grinchstoleeaster; ifitfeelsgooddoit; jesus; liberalbigot; poverty; religiousintolerance
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To: driftdiver
Many people believe we are engaged in a holy war. And we are. But it's not with Muslims. The real war -- ­ the silent war ­-- is being engaged among Christians, and that's what we must set our sights on.

This is a distusting bit of filth for TIME-LIFE-CNN-WARNER-TURNER to be spouting on Good Friday.

Ted Turner's bigotry seems engrained at CNN.

I pray for this fool's soul and a change of his heart.

21 posted on 04/06/2007 1:55:48 PM PDT by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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To: nmh
If Jesus lived today, what do you think would be his top priority?

Teaching people to achieve inner peace. After which, all of the items on your list would automatically cease.

Jesus was not in the business of violently attacking symptoms, based on what I have read. ;)

22 posted on 04/06/2007 1:56:13 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: driftdiver

He’d say that sin was sin and we’d crucify Him again.


23 posted on 04/06/2007 1:56:31 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: driftdiver; eyespysomething
If Jesus lived today, what do you think would be his top priority?

Dying for our sins?

24 posted on 04/06/2007 1:56:58 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: bmwcyle
I choose abortion. Even Jesus said, “The poor you will always have with you.”
If everybody followed Jesus, there wouldn’t be any active homosexuals.
Global warming is an inexorable Juggernaut; an unstoppable force that cannon be removed by prayer-or by buying carbon credits, or florescent light bulbs.
AIDS is mostly a behavioral problem brought on by indiscriminate sex.
25 posted on 04/06/2007 1:57:06 PM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: Brilliant

Jesus wouldn’t talk about Global Warming. That is Pope Al Gore’s calling. He’ll save your soul and pardon your eco-sins if only you’ll buy some carbon credits from him.


26 posted on 04/06/2007 1:57:33 PM PDT by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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To: driftdiver
When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

...because those are the two issues the MSM uses as a hammer to forge the image of a intolerant bigoted Christian church to the masses

It is fairly obvious this guy hasn't been in a church for a while.

In my church attendance over the last 28 years, the pastor rarely speaks on these two issues as a stand alone topic

27 posted on 04/06/2007 1:58:17 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Excellence

If Jesus lived today, what do you think would be his top priority?

Abortion 9% 757 votes

Homosexuality 3% 261 votes

Poverty 74% 6028 votes

Global warming 7% 533 votes

AIDS 7% 573 votes


The poll’s been DUped by the left. Karl Marx is smiling.


28 posted on 04/06/2007 1:58:42 PM PDT by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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To: metesky

All of these “what would Jesus do” questions ignore the obvious: We know what he’d do because he’s doing it. He’s letting us exercise our own free will. The real question is not what would Jesus do, but what should we do?


29 posted on 04/06/2007 1:58:58 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SkyPilot

This may be one of the most awesome, truthful posts I’ve ever seen on FR!! Preach it, brother! :*)


30 posted on 04/06/2007 1:59:33 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: driftdiver

The quick vote has POVERTY winning by a mile.
Only CNN readers would believe that Jesus would be more concerned about poverty than about “Killing Babies”.

Undoudtedly there are many things Christians should pray about and work to right.
However, I keep thinking of Mother Teresa that said something along the lines that once you think a mother killing her child is O.K., then there are few things left that you would find revolting.


31 posted on 04/06/2007 1:59:35 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: driftdiver
Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial.

Hmmmm...so I wonder what the ratio is of charitable giving between practicing Christians and...say...athiests, or anti-war protesters? I wonder how many hospitals and clinics have been founded by global warming activists compared to Christians? What is the leftist solution to the root cause of homelessness and poverty vs. the Christian's solution to the root cause of those issues.

This guy needs to start speaking out of his MOUTH.

32 posted on 04/06/2007 1:59:56 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Lost Highway
When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

It happened when pro-choice and gay activists decided that they couldn't defeat the pro-life and pro-family arguments on the facts and merit, and they opted to engage baseless ad hominem attacks on their enemies for hypocrisy. They have put forth a fallacious argument.

33 posted on 04/06/2007 2:00:16 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: driftdiver
If Jesus lived today, what do you think would be his top priority?
Abortion
  9%
757 votes
Homosexuality
  3%
261 votes
Poverty
  74%
6028 votes
Global warming
  7%
533 votes
AIDS
  7%
573 votes

Well, in my opinion, He would be concerned about the greatest evil, leading to the greatest perversion and loss of souls: abortion. Global warming? I think not.


34 posted on 04/06/2007 2:01:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: driftdiver

I think Mr. Martin (and the majority of the “hijacking” Christianity crowd) are making the mistake of assuming that the politically active portions of the church speak the whole voice of the church. The plain and simple fact of the matter is that there is not another group in the United States that does so much to combat poverty as the churches throughout this country. I have personally helped build numerous houses for others, have assisted in medical mission trips, worked in crisis closets freely giving to those in need, served meals to Katrina victims (the halls of our church overflowing), and others have done far, far more than I. But that is the work of the church and really doesn’t need politicization.

Unlike abortion, there is no political hindrance to doing the right thing. The church really only became active in politics in this country when secularists began imposing their moral stances on the populace. With the rise of court-ordained abortion, the destruction of traditional marriage, the church became political. It’s not something I approve of wholly, but I’d be even more opposed to the church donating its resources to the government in fighting poverty and the like. The church already does that, and you can rest assured does it better than the government ever would.

The quickest way to weaken the church is to intertwine its purpose with that of the state. Therein the spirit and the purpose will, of course, be strangled right there on the vine.


35 posted on 04/06/2007 2:01:45 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: driftdiver
Just want to point out that this survey is null because of the invalidity of the question: "*IF* Jesus were alive today..." D'oh. Jesus IS Alive--today, tomorrow, yesterday...
36 posted on 04/06/2007 2:02:41 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: driftdiver

It was once said, that Christianity was tried, and found wanting.

When in actual truth, an honest and determined practice of Christianity was found by many to be too difficult, and left untried.

Oversimplifying what Christianity means, by setting up straw men, then knocking them down, may make some of flaccid spirit feel better about themselves, but does not in any way diminish basic truths about the reality of what it means to commit fully to the Son of God, and adopt selfless ways in achieving those ideals preached in the name of GOD.

Young folk, never knowing anything better, can take some false inspiration, and pretend it is some revelation. But real revelations only come with age and experience. Saul would never have had that epiphany on the road to Damascus, had he not zealously questioned all aspects of what he believed he knew about Jesus and his followers, only to learn his assumptions were as nothing to the real power of the love of the Lord.

Saul arose from that encounter, a transformed person. Now a follower of the Christ, he almost single-handedly shaped the early Christian Church into a force for proselytization of all men to follow the word of the Lord.

Today we have nations founded on the words of both the Old and New Testaments, nations where justice, and yes, liberty are considered to be the common heritage of all. And once again, those who have enjoyed the fruits of this liberty, are trying desperately to toss it away, for little or no recompense.


37 posted on 04/06/2007 2:05:46 PM PDT by alloysteel (For those who cannot turn back time, there is always the option of re-writing history.)
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To: Brilliant
He’s letting us exercise our own free will.

Amen! (and I'm not all that religious.)

The real question is not what would Jesus do, but what should we do?

The most powerful question of all, imo. Real liberty can not exist without adherence to certain basic eternal laws.

38 posted on 04/06/2007 2:10:42 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
"belever"
Well, a religion exists not to be lived, but believed [in]. With an ideology it is the other way around.
39 posted on 04/06/2007 2:10:48 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: bmwcyle

“Then who is on the thrown of David in the Temple right before his return?”

Just curious ... YOU tell me.

I say Christ DEFEATED Satan through His death and resurection. SIN is what put Christ on the cross.


40 posted on 04/06/2007 2:12:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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