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Commentary: What would Jesus really do?
CNN ^ | Apr 6, 2007 | Roland Martin

Posted on 04/06/2007 1:40:34 PM PDT by driftdiver

When did it come to the point that being a Christian meant caring about only two issues,­ abortion and homosexuality?

Ask the nonreligious what being a Christian today means, and based on what we see and read, it's a good bet they will say that followers of Jesus Christ are preoccupied with those two points.

Poverty? Whatever. Homelessness? An afterthought. A widening gap between the have and have-nots? Immaterial. Divorce? The divorce rate of Christians mirrors the national average, so that's no big deal.

The point is that being a Christian should be about more than abortion and homosexuality, and it's high time that those not considered a part of the religious right expose the hypocrisy of our brothers and sisters in Christianity and take back the faith. And those on the left who believe they have a "get out of sin free" card must not be allowed to justify their actions.

Many people believe we are engaged in a holy war. And we are. But it's not with Muslims. The real war -- ­ the silent war ­-- is being engaged among Christians, and that's what we must set our sights on.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; aids; antichristian; atheist; culturewar; goodfriday; grinchstoleeaster; ifitfeelsgooddoit; jesus; liberalbigot; poverty; religiousintolerance
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To: AppyPappy
He’d say that sin was sin and we’d crucify Him again.

http://www.analogartsensemble.net/blog/2005_03_01_analog.html

No. 1: Come, Ye Daughters
Come, ye daughters, share my wailing. See ye! The Bridegroom see! 
Whom? 
See Him! A lamb is he.
How?
O Lamb of God, most holy, the bitter Cross Thou has taken. At all times meek and lowly, though by Thy children forsaken
See it! His patience mild
What?
Look! Upon our guilt.
Ah, where?
The sins of man Thou art bearing, else were we left despairing. Have mercy on us, O Jesu.
Look on Him, for love untold, He Himself the Cross is bearing.
Come, ye daughters, share my wailing.
See ye! The Bridegroom see! See Him! A lamb is He.
Whom? How? A lamb is he.

No. 3: Dearest Jesus
Ah, dearest Jesu, how hast Thou offended, that such a bitter judgment has been handed? Where is Thy guilt, in what the great transgression, for Thy Confession?

No. 25: Oh, sorrow!
Ah, woe! What trembling fills His tortured breast! How sinks His heart! How pale His face oppressed!
Ah, what has brought on Thee this tribulation?
Before the Judge He must appear, there is no help, no comfort near.
'Tis my own sinning, naught of Thy transgression!
Such agonies doth Hell awaken: He must for others' sin be taken.
"Tis I, Lord Jesus, all the anguish own here which you atone here.
Ah, if my love Thy stay could be, My Savior, could calm Thy fear or share it, could make it less, or help to bear it, how gladly, how gladly would I watch with Thee!

101 posted on 04/10/2007 1:14:32 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Excellence
Global warming is an inexorable Juggernaut;

Kinda like that 'global wetting' that occured about 4000 years ago.

102 posted on 04/10/2007 1:15:49 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

None of us knows the mind of God.


103 posted on 04/10/2007 1:16:15 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: weegee
He’ll save your soul and pardon your eco-sins if only you’ll buy some carbon credits from him.

I think they should then be called carbon indulgences.

104 posted on 04/10/2007 1:16:29 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: driftdiver
A paraphrase of Mr. Roland Martin's column:

"I'm not a Christian and have never gone to church; I work in a newsroom surrounded by secular individuals who look down their noses at Christianity. Therefore, I'm an expert on Christianity!"

105 posted on 04/10/2007 1:17:11 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Brilliant
He’s letting us exercise our own free will. The real question is not what would Jesus do, but what should we do?

That is, if you believe in free will... I thought Luther did a great job responding to Erasmus' contention that we all have free will. (in fact, Erasmus continually contradicted himself by saying he did and then did not believe in free will.) I think Romans 9 deals pretty clearly with this.

106 posted on 04/10/2007 1:18:24 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: driftdiver

The Son of Man came to seek and save the lost.


107 posted on 04/10/2007 1:19:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: UltraKonservativen
Only CNN readers would believe that Jesus would be more concerned about poverty than about “Killing Babies”.

I think he did say something about harming little ones, didn't he? That it'd be better for those who do so to have a millstone hung around their neck and thrown into the sea. What a nice guy.

108 posted on 04/10/2007 1:19:25 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: UltraKonservativen
once you think a mother killing her child is O.K., then there are few things left that you would find revolting.

I think those people who think pro-choice is A-OK often are the same ones that find a human killing an animal or wearing a fur coat revolting, Sadly enough...

109 posted on 04/10/2007 1:21:08 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

A FUNDAMENTAL BELIEVER WASHES ALL THIER REASONING THROUGH THE ENTIRE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD.


110 posted on 04/10/2007 1:34:14 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: nmh
Liberals could care less about the poor. All liberals care about is themselves.

I just finished reading "Do as I Say (Not as I Do)" by Peter Schweitzer. EXCELLENT read and definitely illustrates your point here.

111 posted on 04/10/2007 1:34:30 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

I agree. But that’s what these social liberals claim they’re doing.


112 posted on 04/10/2007 1:35:07 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: The Blitherer
I understand your point, but that doesn't excuse us from modeling our lives after Jesus and trying to live as He lived on earth, even if we don't succeed.

Just how far is that supposed to go? Because he eventually went to the cross and atoned for our sins. I don't think we can do that kind of thing. We should be willing to rather die than believe heresy. I know many who have given up all only to also give up the truth. (E.g. frankly, Mother Teresa, in her own words, didn't seem too worried about Hindus etc. accepting the truth of Christ which IMO makes all her works for naught.)

113 posted on 04/10/2007 1:38:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: driftdiver
His justification for the declaration that Christianity has become preoccupied with abortion and homosexuality is his extremely shallow knowledge of Christianity, based on what the Legacy News Media choose to report about it.

The fact is, the Media, not Christians, are obsessed with abortion and homosexuality, and how most Christians aren't willing to adjust their standards on those issues.

114 posted on 04/10/2007 1:39:03 PM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: keats5
Nothing else really matters in the long run.

of course. I find it interesting that he also didn't say much about slavery. Yet these same liberals would have a fit if we were to use that as justification for slavery.

115 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:21 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Swordfished
one of the many great things about Jesus was that he wasn't full of self-righteousness.

But he also wasn't a namby pamby and judged rather harshly at times.

'harder for a rich man to get to heaven'....

But nothing shall be impossible with God

'you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold'...

What does lukewarm mean? Moderate? unwilling to take a stand for truth? Blown and tossed by every wind of doctrine?

I'm not sure where you're going with this, it seems kind of vague.

116 posted on 04/10/2007 1:42:36 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: MHGinTN
If Christians are not to speak up for those going to the slaughter or heading for damnation because of their degeneracy, then to whom would mister Martin have us speak?

One would have to wonder if in the 1960's/1860's any supposed Christian leader was saying "When did Christianity suddenly become a single issue, like Racism/slavery?"

117 posted on 04/10/2007 1:44:25 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I think he does get it. He makes the point that Christianity is not a political agenda, it’s a matter of faith.

It's also not about a social agenda (which goes hand in hand with a political agenda). You're falling for the bait and switch.

118 posted on 04/10/2007 1:46:20 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: c-b 1
Someone hasn't read, 1 Corinthians 14:34, or 1 Timothy 2:12.

lol BIG old red flag. I missed that one too! No wonder he's liberal.

Also Philippians 3:2-7

Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless. But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.

Hey, why's he studying for his masters degree? He should just have his wife teach him.

/sarcasm

It is odd too that he says he's tired of those who 'pimp' God even as he jumps on the pimping bandwagon.

119 posted on 04/10/2007 1:54:22 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: BibChr
There are briefer ways of saying, "I'm 'way out of my depth, and have no idea what I'm writing about."

BAHAHAHA!~

120 posted on 04/10/2007 1:55:00 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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