I hate abortion, but it's up to states - Rudy

NY Daily News ^ | April 6th 2007 | DAVID SALTONSTALL

[txroadkill]

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

I'll let the lawyers here argue this, but I think he is wrong. The above is the 5th amendment that I believe says that no one can be deprived of life without due process. I know the argument will be that the framers were talking about punishment for criminal acts, but what does Public Domain have to do with criminal cases? If they are including private property protection in the same sentence, cannot not be also said that they were protecting  life and liberty in all contexts as well?

If that is the case, then life in the womb must be protected until that life can defend itself from being terminated in a civil court. Then the US Government must protect that life and that overrides any state law.

[Fawn]

I’m so sick and tired of this one issue being played like it’s the only issue!! WE ARE AT WAR WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT US ALL DEAD.

[HEY4QDEMS]

Drugs are illegal now. How do you enforce the current drug laws?

I’m not sure what your point is. Is it; if we can’t enforce the law, then it should be legal?

[Petronski]

WE ARE AT WAR WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT US ALL DEAD.

Don't be a one-issue voter!

[DManA]

He won’t get elected if the people this is important to stay home. Let’s get this out early so we can find someone who will fight the war AND get elected.

[bayoung]

I guess this puts slavery back into play.

[Hydroshock]

Who is being a one issue voter now? As I recall almost all the men running for the rep nomination ahve as good or better qualifications to run the war as Rino Rudy.

[trisham]

that is a far cry from his previous “it’s a constitutional right” stance. Saying it is up to the states means Roe v. Wade being overturned. Is that what he really means?

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No. What he really means is that he'll say whatever it takes to be elected president.

[Fawn]

War on terror trumps all and encompasses all. If you don't fight terror...nothing else will matter.
If people sit home and don't vote because of abortion they are traitors, selfish and immature...
Personally, I hope Thompson jumps in..I think he can win as much as Rudy.

[trisham]

It’s not the only issue, but it is the subject of the article in question. For other issues involving Giuliani, there are other threads.

[antiRepublicrat]

I have to at least agree with the “up to the states” part. Aside from the actual abortion issue, Roe v. Wade is a shining example of federal encroachment on state sovereignty.

[Gopher Broke]

I am opposed to slavery but think it is people’s right to own a slave..... /sar

[Alberta's Child]

WE ARE AT WAR WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT US ALL DEAD.

Then why doesn't Rudy Giuliani put this issue behind him -- and get the support of a lot of folks who might otherwise oppose him -- by saying something as simple and clear as this:

"The notion that we should be spending taxpayer dollars to kill our own children while we are at war with people who want us all dead is preposterous."

[trisham]

Insulting those one desires to convince is counterproductive.

[hardworking]

OK I’ll stick my neck out: this is a ‘winning’ position for R.G. with fence-sitter voters and it is a practical one. I really think we Repubs have to be more practical. The abortion issue is THE number one issue for most libs and lib-leaning voters. It isn’t going to just disappear and although I too abhore abortion, to think that it is going to be completely outlawed is as naive as trying to re-instate prohibition. It isn’t going to happen. We need to focus on WHO can defeat the Clintoon machine and stay focussed on that.

[colorado tanker]

I don’t have a candidate, yet. I was looking at Rudy because of his promise to appoint judges like Roberts and Alito. But backing public funding of abortions crosses the line for me. And he still hasn’t been very clear about what he would do as President on Second Amendment issues. Isn’t that a “constitutional right” too??

[colorado tanker]

LOL!

[trisham]

And he still hasn’t been very clear about what he would do as President on Second Amendment issues. Isn’t that a “constitutional right” too??

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One of the biggies. :)

[Alberta's Child]

War on terror trumps all and encompasses all.

This is nothing more than a pathetic, lame attempt to brush a candidate's radical left-wing positions on other issues under the rug.

If this "war on terror" really trumps and encompasses all, then any candidate who runs on this platform should at least be making some recommendations to slash non-defense Federal spending for the duration of the "war."