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Giuliani Says He Favors Government Funding for Some Abortions
Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation. ^ | 06/04/07

Posted on 04/06/2007 8:24:56 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R), who has formed a presidential exploratory committee, on Wednesday said he favors government funding for some abortions but added in a statement that he "will not seek to change current law," Long Island Newsday reports (Gordon, Long Island Newsday, 4/4).

"Ultimately, [abortion is] a constitutional right, and therefore, if it's a constitutional right, ... you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani said in an interview with Dana Bash of CNN (Saltonstall, New York Daily News, 4/5).

Giuliani's campaign later issued a statement that he will not seek to change the law known as the Hyde amendment (Long Island Newsday, 4/4). The Hyde amendment, passed in 1976, forbids the use of federal funds to pay for the cost of an abortion except in cases of rape or incest or when a woman's life is in danger (Kaiser Daily Women's Health Policy Report, 8/19/05).

In response to reporters' questions on Thursday in South Carolina, Giuliani said, "The best way to handle funding is to follow the law," adding, "Federal funds are used only in very limited cases for abortion, and it is left for a state-by-state decision. I have expressed previously that I am very comfortable with that" (Santora, New York Times, 4/6). Giuliani on Tuesday reiterated his support for abortion rights but said, "I don't know that I'd do anything as president to try to preserve that. That's a decision for the court" (Balz, Washington Post, 4/5). Earlier this year, Giuliani said he would appoint "strict constructionist" judges to the Supreme Court.

In a February interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, he also said that a law (S 3) being reviewed by the Supreme Court that bans so-called "partial-birth abortion" should be upheld and that he supports parental notification requirements with a judicial bypass provision for minors seeking abortions (Kaiser Daily Women's Health Policy Report, 3/14). On Thursday, he said that his comments about judicial appointments were not an indication that he would like to see Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court case that effectively barred state abortion bans, from being overturned, the AP/Forbes reports (Davenport, AP/Forbes, 4/5). "I'm against abortion," Giuliani said, adding, "I hate it. I wish there never was an abortion, and I would counsel a woman to have an adoption instead of an abortion. ... But, ultimately, I believe it is an individual right, and the woman can make that choice" (Saltonstall, New York Daily News, 4/6).


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; giuliani; rino; rinoextraordinaire; rudy; rudy08; rudy2008; rudyonabortion
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To: KATIE-O

“Only in your dreams. Most pundits like Frank Luntz agree that guns, gays and abortion will not be the deciding issues in this election. It’s all about leadership and the WOT.”

The GOP can’t win without all out support of the conservative right. Rudy’s lib. views on guns, gays and FEDERALLY funded abortions won’t do it.Rudy’s boy Kerik is about to be indicted and Rudy recommended him for homeland security chief. Six marriages between him and his wife “du jour” won’t play well in the red states. Either Fred Thompson, Romney or McCain would be far better choices.Pundits like Luntz et al are not worth listening to as they are apologists for the RATS.


141 posted on 04/07/2007 4:45:51 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Is that Chuckie Schumer smooching behind Julie-annie in the picture?


142 posted on 04/07/2007 4:51:45 AM PDT by lormand (Michael Wiener - the tough talking populist moron, who claims to be a Conservative)
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To: rodguy911; wagglebee

Wagglebee can speak for me. He is stating fact. People like you are trying to sell a bag of smoke and mirrors.


143 posted on 04/07/2007 5:19:52 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: indylindy
This is a hopeless thread, some of you people have already made up your minds to go in the tank again even if we have a repeat of 06.

Once thing you may not understand is that there are not enough conservatives to elect a conservative or enough liberals to elect a liberal. So guess whose vote is really key to winning any election? That one may be a bit tough for you so take a while to digest it.

144 posted on 04/07/2007 8:45:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
You have made your case then, we are not needed. I won’t be leaving this party, the party will be leaving me.

There is no reason to vote for A RINO Republican. If you lose, it will be your reasoning, not mine.

Pubbies are not going to get by nominating a RINO to fight the WOT, not good enough. The RATs have eliminated those words. Enough Americans now believe there is no WOT. In a way, Bush protected us but has hurt himself by not focusing on all fronts. A PC culture is a lot responsible for that. Not all fronts are military. Many of those people putting their lives on the line in the mid-east are the very people that Rudy people show such contempt for.

Our problem is the war within. Muslims are growing in numbers. There are more ways than one to fight them. We have to stick up for our beliefs and believe them as much as they are committed to their own beliefs.

Mainstream is not right. Mainstream is mediocrity and unprincipled weakness.

Sorry. Rudy is not the man to do that.

145 posted on 04/07/2007 9:16:51 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

This is very true. Foes of abortion need to know where the law stands (and where it has been for a while), so the can best make judgments and choices about future policy.

Many pro lifers consistently misstate The Hyde Amendment, and don’t have a practical grasp of what overturning Roe would mean. There’s a lot of short term gratification with the issue, and it’s not productive.


146 posted on 04/07/2007 9:39:29 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Another thing that folks fail to grasp is that a person may personally be for legal abortion and also think the issue is best left up top the states and that Roe should be overturned. That goes for politicians and judges.

In the meanwhile, you can believe that Roe is valid law of the land, which by the way it is whether we like it or not.


147 posted on 04/07/2007 9:44:10 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
law stands (and where it has been for a while), ...Many pro lifers ...don’t have a practical grasp of what overturning Roe would mean.

That specious argument must pass the Plessy v Ferguson smell test. A law that stood more than twice as long as Roe.

And guess what? It stinks.

148 posted on 04/07/2007 9:48:47 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’m not advocating that Roe not be overturned. I’m talking about what would happen, as a practical matter, if Roe is overturned.

That’s not specious in any way. And many pro lifers I know have a poor grasp of a potential post-Roe political landscape.


149 posted on 04/07/2007 9:55:08 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: wagglebee
“.....I’m not, neither are 90% of the other FReepers....”

I am sure there are many who are leaning toward Rudy, but haven’t committed as yet.

150 posted on 04/07/2007 10:03:29 AM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
“.....Sodomites have the same rights, only those who support the homosexual agenda characterizes “equal rights” for homosexuals......”

I take it you think President Bush is a LIBRUL because he believes in equal rights under the law for gays?? Big shocker......Most people in this country do too. But we want MARRIAGE preserved for one man and one woman.

151 posted on 04/07/2007 10:12:58 AM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: HitmanLV
Roe was based on Griswald, a bad law that sacked the 10th amendment. Only those who believe the Constitution is a “living” document care what law is based on Roe.

Plenty of law was based on Plessy, so the argument that “some” law built on president can’t be overturned certainly is specious.

152 posted on 04/07/2007 10:15:32 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

What does that have to do with what I wrote?


153 posted on 04/07/2007 10:17:16 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: KATIE-O

You’re insane to believe that. Rudy’s support among FReepers has DROPPED by nearly a third in the past several weeks. Rudy is in the same freefall nationwide.


154 posted on 04/07/2007 10:18:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: KATIE-O
Only those who believe paraphilic disorder is equivalent to heterosexual marriage usually are supporters of the Homosexual Agenda.

Apparently that’s you and Rudy.

155 posted on 04/07/2007 10:19:04 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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To: HitmanLV
You said, I’m talking about what would happen.

That's an argument the pro-abortion crowd uses and it flies in the face of Plessy.

156 posted on 04/07/2007 10:22:11 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You’re not making any sense. What I wrote has nothing to do with whether Roe was soundly decided or not. I am an advocate of overturning Roe, not a critic of it.

And all that being said, many pro life advocates do have a poor grasp of what would likely actually happen to abortion policy after Roe is overturned.


157 posted on 04/07/2007 10:24:44 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV

You keep repeating yourself.


158 posted on 04/07/2007 10:30:07 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

And you haven’t started making sense.


159 posted on 04/07/2007 10:31:27 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
Your comprehension troubles are not my problem.
160 posted on 04/07/2007 10:36:37 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( Was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day He rose again.)
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