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The Mormon Advantage
Townhall.com ^ | 4/5/2007 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 04/05/2007 5:42:47 PM PDT by Utah Girl

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To: DelphiUser

Missed it, can you tell me what the title of the series is?


281 posted on 04/09/2007 10:52:44 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

Here’s the link, it looks like there are no re-airings scheduled any time soon.

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&showId=173421


282 posted on 04/09/2007 10:58:39 AM PDT by sevenbak
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To: Scotsman will be Free; MHGinTN

Click on my homepage. You will see pictures of the clothing worn in the sacred cermonies of the LDS Church. I no longer believe the doctrine of the Mormons. I am called an apostate, but I am not.

I am a true believer in Jesus Christ and His complete atonement for my sins by his death upon the cross and his resurrection - - He alone gives me life eternal.

I feel sorry for these people who bust spin and twist in order to defend their faith.


283 posted on 04/09/2007 11:10:39 AM PDT by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: AnalogReigns
Mormonism like any other non-Christian religion is all about working your way up—

The priesthood in the LDS Church receives no pay.

Bishops serve for a period of 5 years and then are released.

Stake Presidents serve for a period of 10 years and then are released.

Our former Stake President was called as a Sunday School Teacher when he was released.

Members of the 70s Quorums serve from 5 to 15 years and then are released.

There is not a progression from one to the other.

Our former Stake President was never a Bishop.

Being in one office does not give you a leg-up on any other office.

In all cases, there is no pay, or even expenses paid to those who serve in the various offices.

284 posted on 04/09/2007 11:10:45 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

I If you are quoting averages for time in a position, maybe, as for when you are released, that’s up to the Lord. Other than the exact years thing, pretty accurate.


285 posted on 04/09/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Dan(9698)

Well said.
Our former Stake President is now the Scout Master in his local unit.

There is no “working your way up.”


286 posted on 04/09/2007 11:21:19 AM PDT by sevenbak
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To: colorcountry; Religion Moderator; Admin Moderator

I have stated it before, and I will probably have to state it again.

To reveal what you have covenanted not to is to make yourself a liar to God (even if you don’t believe that covenant was with God now, you did then.)

Who would believe a person who is an admitted liar.

I also find it particularly disturbing that you would post these pictures on FR and find it inappropriate, thus reluctantly, I am reporting you for abuse.


287 posted on 04/09/2007 11:24:03 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry
Hmmm, I also feel equally sorry for those who bust spin and twist in order to bring down another’s faith in Jesus Christ, though it may be different from your own.
288 posted on 04/09/2007 11:24:09 AM PDT by sevenbak
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To: Rosasharn
And those socalled “fundamentalist” Mormons really creep me out.

They creep the rest of us out too.

There is not such a thing as a "fundamentalist Mormon". If they were ever a member of the LDS Church, they were excommunicated (had their membership canceled).

The Church has no say in what they do, and no power over them. The State prosecutes them when they can get evidence,(not the easiest thing to do.)

289 posted on 04/09/2007 11:25:35 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ilovew
Would you be so understanding if the candidate was say... a Mooslem?
290 posted on 04/09/2007 11:29:55 AM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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To: colorcountry

Interesting picture. Reminds me of Masonic garb, with the little apron and the hand positioning, etc.


291 posted on 04/09/2007 11:31:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm not a Mason, but some of our greatest POTUS were FreeMasons and practicing Christians.

George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia.

James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia.

Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee.

James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee.

James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee.

James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio.

William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia.

Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York.

William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio.

Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership.

Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940. Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri. In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry.

Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance.

292 posted on 04/09/2007 11:49:10 AM PDT by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

Does this mean that if Romney is elected president, we get a twofer without having to call it a dual nature? (^ :


293 posted on 04/09/2007 11:52:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: DelphiUser
If you are quoting averages for time in a position, maybe, as for when you are released, that’s up to the Lord. Other than the exact years thing, pretty accurate.

My point in posting that is that there is not a permanent calling for those who serve in offices in the priesthood, nor is there a "ladder" whereby one starts in lower positions and then on to "higher" positions.

294 posted on 04/09/2007 11:52:37 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: MHGinTN
As I understand it, Masons believe that the rituals of masonry are handed down from the temple rights dating back to David and Solomon.

LDS believe that the temple rights practiced by masons became corrupted over thousands of years through apostasy. the “restitution of all things” that Joseph Smith restored included sacred temple worship. This is why there are minor similarities between Masonic rituals and LDS temple worship.

295 posted on 04/09/2007 11:58:02 AM PDT by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

Is that a yes? ... It won’t prevent me from voting for him if he wins the nomination.


296 posted on 04/09/2007 12:00:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I guess it’s a yes in your book, but even though there have been 15 POTUS who were masons, there has not been an LDS member yet. So in my book, no.


297 posted on 04/09/2007 12:03:09 PM PDT by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak
No sweat, I’ve made my share of spelling errors, just ask Boiler Plate.

Happy to oblige, it's all part of the cunning and manipulative(tm) suite of services.

Well SB, it's been nice playing with you, but I will be out of the country for next two weeks. I shall be traveling to my secret island fortress to work on my agenda. So I leave you unchecked and free of my web of control. May you live long and love many wives.

Good luck with the campaign.

Warmest Regards,
Boiler Plate

298 posted on 04/09/2007 12:42:09 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Whatever is begun in anger, ends in shame." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: newcats

Delayed reaction? I stopped posting on this thread three or four days ago.


299 posted on 04/09/2007 12:55:38 PM PDT by ilovew (Strong leadership. Romney '08.)
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To: ilovew
Just got back from vacation.
Nice attempt at avoiding the question though.
300 posted on 04/09/2007 1:04:16 PM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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