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To: P-Marlowe
P-Marlowe writes:
I will NEVER vote for Rudy. And since he's comfortable with that. I'm comfortable with it too.

Well, OK, don't vote for him.

But I will speculate that for each voter on the right (like yourself) who refuses to vote for Rudy, there are one, or perhaps more than one, of the "mushy middle" (and even some former "Reagan Democrats") who WILL vote for Rudy. Ultimately, you're refusal to vote stands less of a chance of hurting Rudy than you presuppose.

You continued:
Without the support of the Pro-Life crowd, no republican can possibly be elected president.

I have predicted a few years' back - and I will predict again - that before long, there will not even BE a "pro-life" plank in the Republican platform. If Rudy looks unstoppable for the nomination, we may even see a "matter of personal conscience" plank regarding abortion in THIS year's Republican platform.

I further predict that we are going to see the Republican party change from being the "pro-life" party into a "matter of conscience" party on the abortion issue. This will fill the void left by the Democrats, who have long-abandoned a "pro-choice" stance for one of "pro-abortion". That is to say, one can no longer be a "pro-life" Democrat, nor even willing to give individuals the freedom to have a "choice". With them, one MUST be pro-abortion or nothing.

The Democrats have "abandoned the center" on abortion. If the Republican party is willing to take that center from the Democrats, they will have both the right _and_ the center on this issue. Refuse to do so, and the party further isolates itself from the American political mainstream.

One of the tenets of conservatism is the willingness to recognize the world and the human condition for what it is, to see reality as it is (rather than the liberal tendency to ignore "what is" for their scrambled-egg dreams). And the reality of abortion in America is that it is here to stay.

You finished with:
And if you think I'm going to vote for Rudy simply because his opponent is Hillary, think again, America is a democracy and America will get the kind of government it deserves.

And if you, sir, sit on your hands this election and permit Hillary or B. Hussein Obama to be elected simply because you refuse to support the Republican candidate, then YOU will get the "kind of government" YOU deserve!

I don't feel I deserve that kind of government, and will use my vote to [at least try to] stop it.

- John

395 posted on 04/05/2007 1:32:26 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

Interesting comments. Thanks for the post.


400 posted on 04/05/2007 1:34:23 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Fishrrman; xzins; EternalVigilance
But I will speculate that for each voter on the right (like yourself) who refuses to vote for Rudy, there are one, or perhaps more than one, of the "mushy middle" (and even some former "Reagan Democrats") who WILL vote for Rudy. Ultimately, you're refusal to vote stands less of a chance of hurting Rudy than you presuppose.

Ask me if I care.

Put Rudy up there and you will get the government you deserve.

Oh, and BTW the "Reagan Democrats" were largely DINO's from the bible belt. Those Reagan Democrats are not likely to cross the line to vote for a cross dresser who thinks that the government should fund the sacrificing of innocent children on the altar of economic prosperity.

And if you, sir, sit on your hands this election and permit Hillary or B. Hussein Obama to be elected simply because you refuse to support the Republican candidate, then YOU will get the "kind of government" YOU deserve!

I admit that I, as an American, deserve the government that the American people want. And if the American people want an unrepentant abortion proponent to lead this nation, then they are free to do it and suffer the consequences. I am prepared to suffer the consequences. My conscience is clear. If America wants Hillary or O'Bama then I'm willing to let God extend either his mercy or his judgment. I do fear that if the Choice is between Rudy (an unapologetic abortion proponent) and Hillary or Obama (unapologetic abortion proponents) then God has chosen for this nation judgment and not mercy.

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (Deuteronomy 30:19 KJV)

The choice is before you. Blessings or cursings, life or death. Your future and that of your posterity is in your hands. Choose wisely.

443 posted on 04/05/2007 1:46:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Fishrrman
I have predicted a few years' back - and I will predict again - that before long, there will not even BE a "pro-life" plank in the Republican platform. If Rudy looks unstoppable for the nomination, we may even see a "matter of personal conscience" plank regarding abortion in THIS year's Republican platform.

That's one of the big reasons that so many Republicans are opposing him. Same goes with the pro-2nd Amendment platform of the GOP. It would be tragic to see a Giuliani candidacy cause the end of that.

453 posted on 04/05/2007 1:49:12 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Fishrrman

I predict YOUR predictions are wrong. And one more prediction, Rudy is NOT going to be the R nominee.


845 posted on 04/05/2007 5:08:02 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Giuliani is a democrat in Republican drag!)
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