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To: EternalVigilance; xzins
"If that's [abortion] real important to you, if that's the most important thing, I'm comfortable with the fact that you won't vote for me," the former mayor said.

I will NEVER vote for Rudy. And since he's comfortable with that. I'm comfortable with it too.

So all you rudybots out there, don't blame me when the democrats take the white house after you coronate the cross dresser to be the standard bearer for the Republican party. Rudy doesn't want our votes, so he's not going to get them. Not in the primary and not in the general.

Without the support of the Pro-Life crowd, no republican can possibly be elected president. We vote. We vote in large numbers and every Republican candidate up until now has counted on that vote to win or to even compete. Without it, Rudy does not stand a chance. And since he doesn't want it, he's not going to get it.

So everyone who is busy pushing Rudy's candidacy right now is in essence pushing the Republicans to a landslide electoral loss next November.

If there is any state in the Union that a Republican can carry without the votes of the pro-life I'd like to know which one it is.

And if you think I'm going to vote for Rudy simply because his opponent is Hillary, think again, America is a democracy and America will get the kind of government it deserves. If the Republicans nominate an un-repentant Abortion proponent as the Republican standard bearer, then God will give America the government it deserves. Bank on it.

172 posted on 04/05/2007 12:30:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
P-Marlowe writes:
I will NEVER vote for Rudy. And since he's comfortable with that. I'm comfortable with it too.

Well, OK, don't vote for him.

But I will speculate that for each voter on the right (like yourself) who refuses to vote for Rudy, there are one, or perhaps more than one, of the "mushy middle" (and even some former "Reagan Democrats") who WILL vote for Rudy. Ultimately, you're refusal to vote stands less of a chance of hurting Rudy than you presuppose.

You continued:
Without the support of the Pro-Life crowd, no republican can possibly be elected president.

I have predicted a few years' back - and I will predict again - that before long, there will not even BE a "pro-life" plank in the Republican platform. If Rudy looks unstoppable for the nomination, we may even see a "matter of personal conscience" plank regarding abortion in THIS year's Republican platform.

I further predict that we are going to see the Republican party change from being the "pro-life" party into a "matter of conscience" party on the abortion issue. This will fill the void left by the Democrats, who have long-abandoned a "pro-choice" stance for one of "pro-abortion". That is to say, one can no longer be a "pro-life" Democrat, nor even willing to give individuals the freedom to have a "choice". With them, one MUST be pro-abortion or nothing.

The Democrats have "abandoned the center" on abortion. If the Republican party is willing to take that center from the Democrats, they will have both the right _and_ the center on this issue. Refuse to do so, and the party further isolates itself from the American political mainstream.

One of the tenets of conservatism is the willingness to recognize the world and the human condition for what it is, to see reality as it is (rather than the liberal tendency to ignore "what is" for their scrambled-egg dreams). And the reality of abortion in America is that it is here to stay.

You finished with:
And if you think I'm going to vote for Rudy simply because his opponent is Hillary, think again, America is a democracy and America will get the kind of government it deserves.

And if you, sir, sit on your hands this election and permit Hillary or B. Hussein Obama to be elected simply because you refuse to support the Republican candidate, then YOU will get the "kind of government" YOU deserve!

I don't feel I deserve that kind of government, and will use my vote to [at least try to] stop it.

- John

395 posted on 04/05/2007 1:32:26 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: P-Marlowe

And you are right but I don’t understand why this seems to fall on deaf ears.


635 posted on 04/05/2007 2:53:53 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: P-Marlowe; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson

It is worse, PM. I just listened to excerpts of Rudi on talk radio (Rush, I believe)

Believe it or not he called abortion a RIGHT! (They have made good into evil and evil into good. The right that’s actually mentioned in the constitution is the RIGHT TO LIFE!) The “right” (falsely so called) to take innocent life is some emanation of a penumbra that ignores the clear statement about life.

And...here’s the absolutely condemning statement...he said that those who don’t have “access” should be eligible for federal money to help pay to exercise their “right.”

In other words, they want to take MY TAX MONEY and make me participate in an abomination with it.

Now, there is absolutely NO WAY to vote for the man.

And, finally, if it isn’t life, then why do they have to kill it?


669 posted on 04/05/2007 3:04:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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