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Giuliani to social conservatives: Take it or leave it
CNN ^ | April 05, 2007

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Rudy Giuliani's message to social conservatives: If you don't like my views, don't vote for me.

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To: Mamzelle

Did Mitt say how many times he has hunted? Is he going to do a John Kerry photo op?


521 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Registered; EternalVigilance

LOL! He’ll go to bed soon or hit abuse. Take your choice.


522 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:25 PM PDT by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: streetpreacher
The Pro-aborts are truly sickening in their reasoning

Sad, but true. I've heard pro-aborts refer to the unborn child as a 'parasite'. Disgusting.

523 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:37 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Mamzelle
Yeah, I do too. Conservatives get lambasted for lack of "nuance"--we shouldn't immediately rag on someone who has the nerve to forego nuance. Blunt....I'm leery of Rudy, but this is a point in his favor.

Every once in awhile we agree. I think he means what he says, and stands behind most of his former positions, which is why I won't vote for him in the primaries.

Now let's talk about nonsense rather than Rudy's positions or, horrors, the positions of the various Republican (can I say Republican here) candidates who are just as qualified on the WOT without the defects on social issues.

524 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:39 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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To: restornu

Well said.


525 posted on 04/05/2007 2:11:05 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin

Must have missed it. Probably a Pro-Rudy/anti-FR graphic.


526 posted on 04/05/2007 2:11:31 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Hostage
I think I was pretty clear when I said that other issues are involved:

Is it independent of others? No, there are other issues that tie into it closely.

My guess is that each of us could think of dozens of issues that are impacted indirectly. The only point I was trying to make is that the issue of right-to-life is not the only issue by which I will decide who gets my vote in 2008.

Someone else made a really good point here, too: If it comes down to Hillary or Rudy in 2008, I'll pick Rudy...period.

527 posted on 04/05/2007 2:13:12 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Thanks for that, FA.

A few words from Stalin and Mussolini would also describe this power-hungry candidate.


528 posted on 04/05/2007 2:13:27 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Gracey

Nah, I’m too tired to tackle an essay. Go back and re-read my post. You seem to have missed the point.


529 posted on 04/05/2007 2:13:50 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: econjack

Here’s unemotional clue #2.

Fact 1: It is widely reported that the vast majority of women want to have children if conditions are ‘right’, meaning there is a sense of security and stability.

Fact 2: Many abortions are decided on the basis of a lack of security and stability, meaning economic reasons. Other reasons are age, physical health and political views. But most decisions are economic in nature.

Fact 3: Nick Rockefeller has been said to brag that it was his family that was behind the women’s lib movemment with the aim of forcing women into the workplace and out of the home where they would otherwise raise children.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/353636.shtml

Fact 4: GW Bush’s tax cuts have percentagewise been minimal; taxes are still at historically high levels.

There are more facts but these may suffice. Put these facts together, what do you see?


530 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:06 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: TommyDale

I really do hope I’m wrong (I like Fred), but I thought I heard (or read??) that he wants to take over Paul Harvey’s radio job, which he has hosted on numerous occasions and evidently enjoys doing.


531 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:11 PM PDT by econjack
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To: streetpreacher

What’s so difficult in defining a Conservative or Moderate? You use the words loosely, but don’t wish to define them? Help us out


532 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:15 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: MEGoody

Let me see if I have this straight: if a fetus is killing a woman, you think the woman should just die rather than save herself?


533 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

No sweat Senior Guisolini. How about not asking me for money?


534 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:54 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Gracey

Again, go back and read my original post. You’re barking up the wrong tree.


535 posted on 04/05/2007 2:15:55 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Yes I am familiar with that site. Is it a definitive predictor of anything? No.

It's a much better indicator than any other type of polling, as there is real money on the line and it is in a market setting. I often use the site to look trends when betting on football in real-life, and I can assure you that I make more than I lose.

536 posted on 04/05/2007 2:16:27 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Howlin
Did Mitt say how many times he has hunted? Is he going to do a John Kerry photo op?

Hunting is McCain's thing, so he says.

McCain announces 'sportsmen coalition' following questions of Romney's hunting experience

You want a hunding President, you want Tommy Thompson. This one

not this one (center>, though he's a hunter too.


537 posted on 04/05/2007 2:16:40 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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To: Oliver Optic

Sorry. What I meant was, what”s your plan B if Thompson doesn’t get in?


538 posted on 04/05/2007 2:17:15 PM PDT by NYC Republican (F. Thompson for Pres, but Would Support Romney, Or Rudy, in that order)
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To: streetpreacher

I see. You’re not capable of defining a Conservative and Moderate. You have no brain? You insane? What’s your problem?


539 posted on 04/05/2007 2:17:28 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: SJackson

It’s a mad race to lock up the hunters, eh?


540 posted on 04/05/2007 2:19:31 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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