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"Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?"

So far:

Yes 26 votes 5% No 523 votes 94% Not Sure 9 votes 2%

1 posted on 04/04/2007 6:13:13 PM PDT by PeterFinn
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“What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property,”
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2 posted on 04/04/2007 6:17:23 PM PDT by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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I know this isn't really a comment posting thread, but I feel compelled to point out the quote below for the danger it represents in potentially eroding 2nd amendment freedoms:

What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property

that's right, you can't defend your property now, or so they desire. Think about what this means.
4 posted on 04/04/2007 6:20:28 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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Man Accused Of Shooting Alleged Sacramento Car Thief

So. Nothing happened at all?

5 posted on 04/04/2007 6:22:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rudy Giuliani wants to steal Norstralia's stroon - well it explains his Mustelidphobia)
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and confronted three alleged burglars.

And the police know what the intentions of these burglars were? How? Were they there?

6 posted on 04/04/2007 6:24:59 PM PDT by Free State Four
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‘Course, if you’re a Sacramento Sheriff’s deputy you can use deadly force to protect your property in the middle of the night if, for instance, a car thief tries to steal your car. A sheriff’s deputy did just that last year a couple of miles from where this latest incident occurred. IIRC, the deputy left a gun in the glove box and when the car thief picked it up, deputy dawg opened fire, killing him. Would this trick work for your average Joe Blow citizen? I doubt it.


9 posted on 04/04/2007 6:32:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Most jurisdictions have self defense defined as imminent danger to your person. Use of a firearm to protect personal property does not fall under any category where you can use deadly force.

Now, if you interrupt a thief stealing and he turns on you and you feel your life threatened, then you can use deadly force.

I believe the only crime you can shoot someone without a direct threat is arson, at least here in NM.

10 posted on 04/04/2007 6:34:29 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: PeterFinn; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; WSGilcrest

Vote needed...


11 posted on 04/04/2007 6:39:17 PM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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"What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property," said Sgt. Matt Young of the Sacramento Police Department.

Nope. If more people defended their property this way, there wouldn't be so many thefts.

This was a four on one situation. The guy had every excuse to use his shotgun. The other three left, didn't they? See, it worked.

Gotta love the poll results.

12 posted on 04/04/2007 6:43:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property," said Sgt. Matt Young of the Sacramento Police Department.

If Sgt Matt Young worked for our local police dept., I would do all I could to encourage him to seek employment elsewhere.
East LA or Hunters Point sounds about right.

It's amazing how police departments decided, somewhere along the line that hiring them meant we gave up the right to defend ourselves and our property, and need to be meek victims and die quietly until they have time to answer the 911 call.

15 posted on 04/04/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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I went to the page and found no poll.


16 posted on 04/04/2007 7:19:47 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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Follow-up: Radio KFBK (Sacramento) talk show host Tom Sullivan made a big deal of this earlier today. He not only got (on the air) a Bail Bondsman to bail the guy out, but had several criminal attorneys vying for the opportunity to defend him!

I wish CA had the Texas-style "Castle-Doctrine" laws. It will be quite awhile, if ever, but cases such as this bring the problem to focus.

With the crime that illegals bring to this state, we definitely need the 2nd Amendment-style of crime solution.

22 posted on 04/04/2007 7:40:14 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration."- unknown)
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94% no. Poll link is underneath the video at the site.

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

23 posted on 04/04/2007 7:46:32 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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Pathetic. Give this man a medal for shooting the vermin.


24 posted on 04/04/2007 7:48:16 PM PDT by pissant (Rudy fans: the Oprah republicans)
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Choice Votes Percentage of 1170 Votes

Yes 56 5%

No 1102 94%

Not Sure 12 1%

31 posted on 04/04/2007 8:53:23 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?
Choice Votes Percentage of 1380 Votes
Yes 61 4%
No 1303 94%
Not Sure 16 1%


35 posted on 04/04/2007 11:52:09 PM PDT by WashingtonStateRepublican
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I voted a resounding NO!!!!!! (If they'd had a "HELL NO!" response, I would have voted that way. :-)

Current Results:

Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?

Choice Votes Percentage of 1582 Votes
Yes 67 4%
No 1498 95%
Not Sure 17 1%

40 posted on 04/05/2007 7:26:53 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Bump.


41 posted on 04/05/2007 7:34:27 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?
Choice Votes Percentage of 1599 Votes
Yes 68 4%
No 1514 95%
Not Sure 17 1%


42 posted on 04/05/2007 7:39:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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WE WON!!!! In part because of the results of this Freeped poll the Sacramento County District Attorney has dropped all charges!!!! GOOD JOB, FREEPERS!!!!


47 posted on 04/11/2007 6:18:24 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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Current results:

Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?
Choice Votes Percentage of 2564 Votes
Yes 145 6%
No 2380 93%
Not Sure 39 2%

55 posted on 04/11/2007 9:23:39 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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