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Man Accused Of Shooting Alleged Sacramento Car Thief FREEP THIS POLL!!!
KCRA.com ^ | April 4, 2007 | KCRA Channel 3 Sacramento

Posted on 04/04/2007 6:13:11 PM PDT by PeterFinn

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FREEP THE POLL!!!

"Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting at the young men who were trying to steal his car?"

So far:

Yes 26 votes 5% No 523 votes 94% Not Sure 9 votes 2%

1 posted on 04/04/2007 6:13:13 PM PDT by PeterFinn
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To: PeterFinn

“What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property,”
/S


2 posted on 04/04/2007 6:17:23 PM PDT by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: rocksblues

Soon enough it’ll be like England where self-defense *of any kind* is illegal.


3 posted on 04/04/2007 6:19:00 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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I know this isn't really a comment posting thread, but I feel compelled to point out the quote below for the danger it represents in potentially eroding 2nd amendment freedoms:

What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property

that's right, you can't defend your property now, or so they desire. Think about what this means.
4 posted on 04/04/2007 6:20:28 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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Man Accused Of Shooting Alleged Sacramento Car Thief

So. Nothing happened at all?

5 posted on 04/04/2007 6:22:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rudy Giuliani wants to steal Norstralia's stroon - well it explains his Mustelidphobia)
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To: PeterFinn
and confronted three alleged burglars.

And the police know what the intentions of these burglars were? How? Were they there?

6 posted on 04/04/2007 6:24:59 PM PDT by Free State Four
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To: verum ago
Feel free to post comments all you want. Also feel free to send a few to the Communists at the Sacramento City Police Department.

http://www.sacpd.org/complaint_online.asp

7 posted on 04/04/2007 6:26:58 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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To: verum ago

I had an incident once where I came back to my car in the mall parking lot and found somone trying to break in. He took off when I confronted him, but car thieves can (and have) attacked the owner in this kind of situation. If that happens and the criminal is shot, isn’t the whole incident the criminal’s fault? Would the potential victim be charged with “escalating” the situation (for confronting the criminal instead of running away) by a politically correct wusses’ court?

I fear for the future of justice.


8 posted on 04/04/2007 6:28:05 PM PDT by conserveababe
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To: PeterFinn

‘Course, if you’re a Sacramento Sheriff’s deputy you can use deadly force to protect your property in the middle of the night if, for instance, a car thief tries to steal your car. A sheriff’s deputy did just that last year a couple of miles from where this latest incident occurred. IIRC, the deputy left a gun in the glove box and when the car thief picked it up, deputy dawg opened fire, killing him. Would this trick work for your average Joe Blow citizen? I doubt it.


9 posted on 04/04/2007 6:32:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Most jurisdictions have self defense defined as imminent danger to your person. Use of a firearm to protect personal property does not fall under any category where you can use deadly force.

Now, if you interrupt a thief stealing and he turns on you and you feel your life threatened, then you can use deadly force.

I believe the only crime you can shoot someone without a direct threat is arson, at least here in NM.

10 posted on 04/04/2007 6:34:29 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: PeterFinn; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; WSGilcrest

Vote needed...


11 posted on 04/04/2007 6:39:17 PM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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"What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property," said Sgt. Matt Young of the Sacramento Police Department.

Nope. If more people defended their property this way, there wouldn't be so many thefts.

This was a four on one situation. The guy had every excuse to use his shotgun. The other three left, didn't they? See, it worked.

Gotta love the poll results.

12 posted on 04/04/2007 6:43:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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considering the car probably cost upwards of 20,000 and represents 6 years of 350 a month, the guy was fighting for not having to spend a good part of his life to finance this scums habit of swiping things...

plus, didn’t i hear the thug say, “i’m gonna run you over with your own car, you no good gay #$@%^&(!...”

that’s my story. or would be.

teeman


13 posted on 04/04/2007 6:46:17 PM PDT by teeman8r ( (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Pistolshot

right on the money. most of the firearm course and personal defense course instructors spend quite a bit of class time teaching when you can/when you can’t under the current laws. in most states this case would fall under can’t if all the facts of the story are accurate. do I agree with these laws as written as personal property theft is a can’t? HELL NO!!!!!!


14 posted on 04/04/2007 6:54:07 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: PeterFinn
"What we try to stress to people is that deadly force, the use of a firearm, is never justified under any circumstances to protect property," said Sgt. Matt Young of the Sacramento Police Department.

If Sgt Matt Young worked for our local police dept., I would do all I could to encourage him to seek employment elsewhere.
East LA or Hunters Point sounds about right.

It's amazing how police departments decided, somewhere along the line that hiring them meant we gave up the right to defend ourselves and our property, and need to be meek victims and die quietly until they have time to answer the 911 call.

15 posted on 04/04/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: PeterFinn

I went to the page and found no poll.


16 posted on 04/04/2007 7:19:47 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger

It’s under the photo to the right. Says web poll...


17 posted on 04/04/2007 7:25:19 PM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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To: tubebender

Thanks- I was lazy and used a page search to find the word poll and it didn’t show up because it was in a graphic.


18 posted on 04/04/2007 7:31:35 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: conserveababe

In the good ‘ol days, horse thieves were hanged.


19 posted on 04/04/2007 7:33:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: tubebender
Done! That felt GOOD!

Do you think a Sacramento man should be charged for shooting
at the young men who were trying to steal his car?

Choice  Votes    Percentage of 1087 Votes  
Yes         51       5% 
No        1024      94% 
Not Sure    12       1% 


20 posted on 04/04/2007 7:34:24 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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