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Who Got the British Sailors Released?
Time.Com ^

Posted on 04/04/2007 1:16:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Who Got the British Sailors Released? By Catherine Mayer/London and Azadeh Moaveni/Tehran

The President of Iran was clearly relishing his role as beneficent liberator of the 15 British Marines and sailors detained by Iran for nearly two weeks. At a press conference today, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the release a "gift to the British people" on the occasion of Easter as well as a commemoration of the Prophet Muhammad's birthday. The smiling President then met with the British detainees, nodding his head munificently as they lined up to offer thanks for their release. "It is for Islam," he reminded one. He joked to another: "You ended up on a compulsory visit, didn't you?"

As much as today's events appeared to be another episode of the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad show, the Iranian president's actual role in ending the crisis may have been less than meets the eye. The office of the presidency in Iran does not really have a say in matters of foreign policy. Indeed, British analysts were quick to credit another political personage for the resolution of the drama. John Williams, the former Director of News of Britain's Foreign Office, asserts that Dr. Ali Larijani, the secretary general of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, was more important in calling the shots. "It seems that around the weekend, Dr. Larijani decided to settle this and took control," says Williams. "He has proved himself a significant power broker, a man who, if he feels it is in Iran's best interests, will do business with the international community." Other observers warn against giving Larijani too much credit. Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, they say, may have decided that Iran had squeezed as much advantage out of the situation as possible and simply got Larijani to do the legwork to end the crisis.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom
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To: Sub-Driver

The MSM will give the credit to Pelosi.


41 posted on 04/04/2007 3:45:06 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Sub-Driver
Pelosi told Abbas that if he could get the British released , after the Dems take over the White House on the coming election, she would make it worth his while.
42 posted on 04/04/2007 3:58:09 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Sub-Driver

Thinking about this hostage release a bit more:

1)Pelosi and crew had to apply for visas (and security), before visit to Mid-east.

2) Thus the enemies knew ahead of time about the trip of an important US (yeech) politician before hand.

3) The question is whether they knew about her trip before - or - after the hostage taking.

4) Was this then just a total set-up if they knew of her trip before hostage taking,

5) Or were they just milking it until she arrived on ground, to fully embarrass Bush and Blair

6) And she’s to F##king stupid to know that she has been used as a duped pawn in this high stakes game!

(Geez! I sure wish that we had Valerie Plame on the ground to provide trip intel. Puke!)


43 posted on 04/04/2007 4:07:01 PM PDT by aShepard (Oh little Mohammad, kouchy, kouchy, koo, Your momma is so proud,you'll be the cutest suicide bomber!)
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To: Sub-Driver
British analysts were quick to credit another political personage for the resolution of the drama. John Williams, the former Director of News of Britain's Foreign Office, asserts that Dr. Ali Larijani, the secretary general of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, was more important in calling the shots. [...] Other observers warn against giving Larijani too much credit. Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, they say, may have [...]

This is silly.

Treating these captives "munificently" was an obvious PR move - to tweak the nose of Anglo opponents and to demonstrate "moral superiority". One can bet such was the consensus among Iranian leaders. They are not fools.

44 posted on 04/04/2007 4:07:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (Lidia Vidal an undocumented immigrant: "We marched, we voted and nothing, I still don't have papers")
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To: Sub-Driver
One night of love in the Persian Garden for Ahmedinajad with Pelosi?


45 posted on 04/04/2007 4:14:42 PM PDT by Palladin (Jordin will be the AI this year.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Brittania no longer rules the waves.

Their sailors are wusses, the way they gave in to the Iranians...acting like they were at a frat house party.

Today really made me sick when they shook hands with that murderous little Shite.

Our Navy men would never behave that way.


46 posted on 04/04/2007 4:27:14 PM PDT by Palladin (Jordin will be the AI this year.)
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To: TBP
Well, it certainly wasn't Tony the Wet Noodle.

Could never have voted for him, but I admire his courage, defying his own party and standing alongside President Bush in the War on Terror.

How quickly people forget.

47 posted on 04/04/2007 4:28:57 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Are they actually out of Iran yet?


48 posted on 04/04/2007 4:32:15 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("the left is rearranging the beach to make sure the tsunami comes in as unimpeded as possible." -)
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To: Let's Roll

Not yet. They’re supposed to fly out some time tonight.


49 posted on 04/04/2007 4:34:17 PM PDT by Palladin (Jordin will be the AI this year.)
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To: FreeInWV

“I think it was the commander of the Nimitz Battle Group. Or fear of him anyway.”

I agree that this had alot to do with it. This enemy is really tough on everyone until they get stood down.


50 posted on 04/04/2007 4:57:52 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JV43270 God Bless America and ALL WHO HAVE and WILL DEFEND HER.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I cannot believe that History is repeating itself! The British have been a great disappointment in this act of war declared by the the Iranian terrorist regime against them. Chamberlain spirit is still alive and well in the current British government and people.
51 posted on 04/04/2007 5:27:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Sub-Driver

In outfits supplied by their Iranian captors, Faye Turney and her fellow Britons
salute their release

52 posted on 04/04/2007 5:28:35 PM PDT by XR7
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To: DrGunsforHands

Yeah, the USS Nimitz is on its way...hmmmmm.


53 posted on 04/04/2007 8:52:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: brent1a
I agree. The vast majority of our airmen that were captured by the N.Vietnamese only gave in after unbelievable torture taking weeks or months. The short time that these sailors were in captivity should not have generated this type of submission.
54 posted on 04/05/2007 4:49:29 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: jveritas
"I cannot believe that History is repeating itself!"

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

-George Santayana

55 posted on 04/05/2007 7:04:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: jveritas

Here you go.......

“Iran’s abrupt release of 15 British sailors and marines is raising hopes the country might compromise on other disputes, most notably its nuclear program”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070405/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_willing_to_compromise


56 posted on 04/05/2007 5:51:05 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

God help us, it did not take long for the useful idiots, traitors, and defeatists in the West to fall for the Iranian terrorist regime trick. Exactly as we discussed yesterday!


57 posted on 04/05/2007 5:58:41 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Sub-Driver

They should have refused to shake his hand in my opinion. An anti-semite and a barbarian he is, and deserves no thanks from those he took prisoner.


58 posted on 04/05/2007 6:00:30 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Sub-Driver

Jesse Jackson was about to fly over if Nancy P hadn’t freed the hostages.


59 posted on 04/05/2007 6:05:16 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: Rutles4Ever

England is now the new France. This could have been settled the minute the sailors were confronted but they were told to stand down. Shamefull, they can’t even protect themselves.


60 posted on 04/05/2007 6:06:14 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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