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To: KantianBurke

The simple fact is that the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies that don’t end in abortion will result in a huge tab to the taxpayer for welfare, food stamps, public schooling (for the child of a non-taxpayer), Medicaid, and on and on. Anti-abortion activists try to make it sound like a big financial injustice is being done to them when tax dollars pay $250 for an abortion they don’t approve of, but the only alternative in today’s political reality is for people who would rather the abortion had taken place to be stuck with the welfare tax bite of more than 1000 times the cost of the abortion. Ideally, no one should be forced to fund government transfer payments to individuals for things they don’t approve of, but until we can completely dismantle the welfare state, that’s not an available option as far as this particular issue is concerned.


80 posted on 04/04/2007 1:19:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Pretty tawdry reasoning. You’re presupposing that the majority of women who get abortions are on welfare and are angling for another govt check. And even if that were the case, you’re assuming that those kids will inevitably be a drag on society. Many people born into broken homes have successful lives, both financially and career wise.


98 posted on 04/04/2007 1:27:43 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: GovernmentShrinker

IOW, you believe in “shrinking government” by exterminating the poor.


105 posted on 04/04/2007 1:30:29 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I'd have far more respect for that position if you just came right out and said that abortion should be mandatory for all welfare recipients.

That's the underlying reason why we have abortion anyway -- so why be shy about it?

108 posted on 04/04/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The simple fact is that the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies that don’t end in abortion will result in a huge tab to the taxpayer for welfare,

Even if it is true, it's a crap argument. Don't argue that abortion is cool because of some other screwed up government program.

180 posted on 04/04/2007 1:51:09 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Ideally, no one should be forced to fund government transfer payments to individuals for things they don’t approve of, but until we can completely dismantle the welfare state, that’s not an available option as far as this particular issue is concerned.

Oh, right, ideally we shouldn't have to kill people, but it's easier than backing away from socialism.

In fact, my understanding of socialism is that we will have to kill more than babies eventually, because socialism will expand and it won't be feasible until we start killing old people and children and handicapped too. And those will only be stopgap measures.

But you know this. Only in the ideal world can we not massacre millions for socialism.

Planet Stalin: where mass murder is an "available option," unlike dismantling the welfare state.

188 posted on 04/04/2007 1:55:39 PM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The simple fact is that the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies that don’t end in abortion will result in a huge tab to the taxpayer for welfare, food stamps, public schooling (for the child of a non-taxpayer), Medicaid, and on and on.

Source? Given that for generations unwanted pregnancies were carried to term and produced productive law abiding citizens the burden of proving such an assertion is on you.

205 posted on 04/04/2007 2:13:01 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The simple fact is that the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies that don’t end in abortion will result in a huge tab to the taxpayer for welfare, food stamps, public schooling (for the child of a non-taxpayer), Medicaid, and on and on.

Get rid of these handouts and women will think twice before opening their legs.

381 posted on 04/04/2007 5:07:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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