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Giuliani stands by support of publicly-funded abortions
CNN ^ | April 4th, 2007

Posted on 04/04/2007 12:52:50 PM PDT by KantianBurke

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani told CNN Wednesday he supports public funding for some abortions, a position he advocated as mayor and one that will likely put the GOP presidential candidate at odds with social conservatives in his party.

"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.

A video clip of the then-mayoral candidate issuing a similar declaration in 1989 in a speech to the "Women's Coalition" appeared recently on the Internet.

"There must be public funding for abortions for poor women," Giuliani says in the speech that is posted on the video sharing site YouTube. "We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decisions about abortion."

When asked directly Wednesday if he still supported the use of public funding for abortions, Giuliani said "Yes."

"If it would deprive someone of a constitutional right," he explained, "If that's the status of the law, yes."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; constitution; giuliani; prolife; rudy08; rudy2008; stoprudy2008; taxpayerdollars
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To: ken5050

“....Excellent points. If Rudy were president, and the next day got to appoint 4 Supremes, who the day after voted to toss out Roe..it would go back to the state legislatures...you’d see abortions legal in NY, NJ, Mass, Cal, and other states..and online travel agents hawking a “three day weekend in NYC..including airfare, a room at the Waldorf, tickets to a Broadway show and/or Yankees game, dinner at Babo, and a D&C ..for a fixed price..”

Exactly, every travel agent would have an Abortion Package Deal......ugh! But true.


341 posted on 04/04/2007 3:37:55 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: Torie

It’s becoming clear that the majority of rudy supporters on this site either are terrible at debating the issues, or they have so little ammo to defend the merits of rudy’s positions that they just cut and run. Not just with me, but with other anti-RINO posters.


342 posted on 04/04/2007 3:38:26 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: KATIE-O

Respect him? You worship the ghoul.


343 posted on 04/04/2007 3:38:46 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: KATIE-O

“Exactly, every travel agent would have an Abortion Package Deal......ugh! But true.”

Which would raise the cost of abortions, and if you follow market forces, reduce the demand for them.


344 posted on 04/04/2007 3:39:15 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny

It’s called tapdancing and lying.


345 posted on 04/04/2007 3:39:45 PM PDT by pissant (Rudy fans: the Oprah republicans)
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To: Jake The Goose
Try to engage without sounding hysterical. The issues you raise are real - no need to flame out with words that serve no one. At this point - I fear you having any kind of firearm.

You, sir, are the hysterical one. I raised very good points and you answer me with childish rhetoric. I simply told you that you are brain dead if you think being POTUS has nothing to do with abortions, especially funding them. As for me owning firearms, I would trust my ability above your ability to carry any day of the week. I have owned and fired firearms since the age of 9, back in the days when our constitution meant something, and I carry concealed every day of my life. Have never shot anyone yet(except during war time) but of course I haven't met a Rudybot face to face yet(if you fail to recoginize this as sarcastic humor then please don't bother to respond, your answer will be dull beyond comprehension).

346 posted on 04/04/2007 3:43:58 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Have never shot anyone yet(except during war time) but of course I haven't met a Rudybot face to face yet

Welcome to the ranks of the 3%.

347 posted on 04/04/2007 3:47:11 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: calex59

Ok buddy - so you’re a war hero - good on ya.....

And let me guess - maybe a little bit angry also.

Might be time for a nap Pops.


348 posted on 04/04/2007 3:48:33 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: madprof98

Don’t you love the (except in war time) insert.

i.e. - “don’t you dare challenge me”

Oh well - his passion is his own.


349 posted on 04/04/2007 3:50:02 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: JCEccles

The candidate you support had the exact same position as Mr. Giuliani until his timely little epiphany in 2005 at the time he decided to run for president.


350 posted on 04/04/2007 3:52:15 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Sabramerican

And some people believe the moon is made of cheese.


351 posted on 04/04/2007 3:58:51 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: MHGinTN

bttt


352 posted on 04/04/2007 4:00:33 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Ultimately, it’s a constitutional right, and therefore if it’s a constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by state basis, you have to make sure people are protected,” Giuliani said in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash in Florida’s capital city.


Harris v. McRae, 448 U.S. 297 (1980). The Court found restricting the use of federal
funds to cover abortion does not implicate a woman’s due process right to have an
abortion, as defined by Roe. They wrote, “[a] woman’s freedom of choice [does not]
carry with it a constitutional entitlement to the financial resources to avail herself of the
full range of protected choices.” They also determined that states participating in the
Medicaid program are not required to use their own funds to cover “medically
necessary” abortions for which no federal monies are available.

Guess Mr. Giuliani only believes part of the Court’s interpretation of the Constitution


353 posted on 04/04/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: NeoCaveman
Does he favor tax payer subsidies so the poor can purchase guns?

I never heard him utter a peep about how unfair it was for the poor to have to cough up more money for the gun permit than for the average gun. Even though it certainly made it harder for the poor (and even the not-so-poor) to legally exercise their constitutional rights in New York City.

354 posted on 04/04/2007 4:17:55 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: flashbunny; KATIE-O
“Exactly, every travel agent would have an Abortion Package Deal......ugh! But true.” Which would raise the cost of abortions, and if you follow market forces, reduce the demand for them.

I don't think so. I think kitchen abortion clinics would crop up all over the place, other women would simply start dumping babies after birth and many other babies would end up abused or in state-sponsored institutions -- probably with learning disabilities since a woman who doesn't want a child isn't going to go out of her way to receive proper nutrition while pregnant. Women were doing this before Roe and they will do it after. They still do it all over the world. Law changes won't do anything to change behavior. If you want to change behavior and lower abortions, it needs to start with respect in the home, increasing self-esteem for young girls, education, religion, the teaching of abstinence, etc.

355 posted on 04/04/2007 4:19:00 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: GovernmentShrinker

So you can provide a source that unwanted pregnancies end most often with state support??


356 posted on 04/04/2007 4:21:15 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: New Girl
Law changes won't do anything to change behavior.

By all means, then, we need to eliminate all laws, since they are obviously incapable of stopping people from doing whatever they want.

OOPS! I forgot: THAT IS REALLY WHAT YOU LIBERTARIAN TYPES WANT TO DO!

357 posted on 04/04/2007 4:21:51 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: KantianBurke

I prefer Hannity’s EXCLUSIVE interview with Rudy from last night, because it made me feel all warm and gooey inside about Giuliani.

Shame on that CNN journalist and her tough questions. Did she not realize who she was talking to?!


358 posted on 04/04/2007 4:24:39 PM PDT by MC Miker G
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To: madprof98

I was specifically referring to abortion law, not all laws and you know it. Please don’t twist my words.


359 posted on 04/04/2007 4:25:23 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: Jake The Goose
It is a false negative - and a litmus test with no relevance to being POTUS.

His knowledge (or rather lack thereof) has plenty of relevance to being President.

360 posted on 04/04/2007 4:27:27 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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