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Africa: How we killed our dreams of freedom
The Statesman ^ | April 3, 2007 | William Gumede

Posted on 04/02/2007 8:54:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Across the continent, liberation movements that fought against colonial rule proved unable to sustain democratic governance. We cannot keep blaming the past... In the inner sanctum of South Africa's ruling African National Congress they have coined a word for it: Z"anufication"... A senior national executive member of the ANC, Blade Nzim ande, warned recently: "We must study closely what is happening in Zimbabwe, because if we don't, we may find features in our situation pointing to a similar development." ...The Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) has complained to the South African Broadcasting Corporation, the public broadcaster, over its failure to cover the Zimbabwean meltdown. Although the ANC in South Africa and Zanu-PF are light years apart, the spectre of "Zanufication" haunts South Africa, raising the question: "Is there something inherent in the political culture of liberation movements that makes it difficult for them to sustain democratic platforms?"


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africa; angola; namibia; zanufication; zimbabwe
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Gee, y'think?!?
1 posted on 04/02/2007 8:54:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

As to the last question in the article: Yeah, two things. The tribalism you never grew out of, and the Marxism you were stupid enough to buy into.


2 posted on 04/02/2007 8:56:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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The tribalism you never grew out of, and the Marxism you were stupid enough to buy into.

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Spot on.


3 posted on 04/02/2007 9:09:46 PM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: PzLdr; Bigg Red
"Is there something inherent in the political culture of liberation movements that makes it difficult for them to sustain democratic platforms?"

4 posted on 04/02/2007 10:15:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll add that blaming all problems on colonialism is a form of denial that keeps them from solving them.


5 posted on 04/02/2007 10:20:08 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Is there something inherent in the political culture of liberation movements that makes it difficult for them to sustain democratic platforms?"

DUH. That's a rhetorical question, right?

6 posted on 04/02/2007 10:22:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Is there something inherent in the political culture of liberation movements that makes it difficult for them to sustain democratic platforms?”

It’s kinda hard to build a democratic platform on a base of necklacing.


7 posted on 04/02/2007 10:25:38 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: Bigg Red; ClaireSolt; denydenydeny; freedomfiter2; PzLdr

Whoops. Previous reply.


8 posted on 04/02/2007 11:17:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bigg Red; ClaireSolt; denydenydeny; freedomfiter2; PzLdr
Did I say previous reply? I meant, "next reply". ;') [blush]

I came across this quote on Former Dodger's profile. It's apropos.
Theodore Dalrymple, in a recent interview:
"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."

9 posted on 04/02/2007 11:18:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

bump


10 posted on 04/02/2007 11:23:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: SunkenCiv

One word.......................YES. :-(


11 posted on 04/02/2007 11:26:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: PzLdr

Exactly so.


12 posted on 04/02/2007 11:26:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: PzLdr

“As to the last question in the article: Yeah, two things. The tribalism you never grew out of, and the Marxism you were stupid enough to buy into.”

Are you talking about briton or france? They are both full of cowards and stupid.


13 posted on 04/02/2007 11:27:22 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: SunkenCiv
Theodore Dalrymple, in a recent interview:"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."

This should be taught in the schools of all free people.

14 posted on 04/02/2007 11:28:27 PM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: SunkenCiv
“In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State”

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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15 posted on 04/02/2007 11:34:33 PM PDT by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: Porterville; PzLdr
“As to the last question in the article: Yeah, two things. The tribalism you never grew out of, and the Marxism you were stupid enough to buy into.”

What great insight! This perfectly sums up what happened to the formerly great country of Rhodesia.

Are you talking about briton or france? They are both full of cowards and stupid.

I don't understand this response at all. I must be stupid.
16 posted on 04/02/2007 11:40:19 PM PDT by derllak
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tribalism and adoption of marxism... that sounds not only like Africa but the whole of western europe


17 posted on 04/02/2007 11:43:41 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: SunkenCiv
Excellent!

Clearly, it is the weakest of people (ie., American liberals) who are most prone to the propaganda of political correctness. The same weakness of mind and intellect that compels liberals to demand utterly meaningless "apologies" and other admissions of "mistakes" etc., from those who are strong is the same weakness that makes them vulnerable to the propaganda of guilt and self-hatred. They are incapable of understanding that such apologies, if they came, would accomplish absolutely nothing. Yet, they need them for reasons that nobody - - not even they - - could ever rationally explain.

That clown David Gregory is the perfect case in point.

18 posted on 04/02/2007 11:50:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fella

This should be taught in the schools of all free people.

But this is already a favorite tool of the government schools here in the US.


19 posted on 04/03/2007 6:27:12 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small.

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Wow!Excellent analysis.


20 posted on 04/03/2007 8:01:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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