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To: EveningStar
Probably there were many pilots that did not fly those missions where a bomber was lost and did not lose bombers on their own missions and the story started that way.
To: EveningStar
But historian William Holton said the discovery of lost bombers doesn't tarnish the unit's record. Ditto.
4 posted on
04/01/2007 11:43:48 AM PDT by
Condor 63
To: EveningStar
Still a damn good record.
To: Aeronaut; indcons
To: EveningStar
This report reflects poorly on writers of the last 60 years rather than on the the airmen themselves.
To: EveningStar
Good Grief...
Let's continue to rewrite history.
I bet they were all gay too -
GAAH
Sigh
To: EveningStar
I always found this hard to believe. Although it was my understanding that by the time they entered the ETO, most of the Luftwaffe was already decimated and barely able to offer any resistance. The questions is, what took out those 20 bombers?
11 posted on
04/01/2007 11:48:59 AM PDT by
Kirkwood
To: EveningStar
That is not so suprising. My father was a bomber crewmember both in the ETO and PTO. His opinion was that no matter how good the escort pilots were and the Tuskegee pilots were good there were always going to be losses. There would either be a lot more enemy fighters than the escorts could handle and some of those would hit a mark or the ground flak which was heavy on the way to and over high-value targets would take a few.
Even with the new information they were an outstanding unit with great pilots.
15 posted on
04/01/2007 11:52:15 AM PDT by
RJS1950
(The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
To: EveningStar
I'm curious as to what act[s] of heroism the aviator did that recently gave him the Congressional Medal of Honor. He was in combat, true, but what else?
Are we going to give out CMHs now because it's politically correct?
17 posted on
04/01/2007 11:53:03 AM PDT by
curmudgeonII
(Dum spiro spero.)
To: EveningStar
Doesn't make a bit of difference. I love to hear these guys talk. They are true heroes and gentlemen. They are classy as can be.
18 posted on
04/01/2007 11:54:32 AM PDT by
Arkinsaw
To: EveningStar
Frankly I never believed that the Tuskegee airmen never lost a bomber they were escorting to enemy aircraft. The chances of that happening, considering the number of missions they participated in leaves anyone that has studied, or read up on WWII history skeptical. War stories have a way of getting embellished as time goes on ...
20 posted on
04/01/2007 11:57:14 AM PDT by
BluH2o
To: EveningStar
And it was silly to think otherwise. No fighter pilots can 100% protect bombers, any more than a condom can guarantee against pregnancy. It doesn't diminish what they did accomplish.
23 posted on
04/01/2007 11:59:35 AM PDT by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: EveningStar
What's your point?
White squadrons lost plenty of bombers. 60,000 Americans died in the air war over Germany.
Comparisons of this sort are invidious, gratuitous and serve no purpose but to stir up animosities.
29 posted on
04/01/2007 12:08:03 PM PDT by
Lonesome in Massachussets
("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”)
To: EveningStar
It is beyond me why something like that would be brought up now. I am sure at least some bombers were shot down by enemy fighters while they were being escorted. The main thing about their reputation was that they always stuck with the formations no matter what. One of my old girl friends father who was from South Carolina was a B24 pilot. He was escorted by them on numerous occasions and had nothing but praise for them. What is interesting is the number of bombers who may have been shot down by other bombers when everyone was firing at something. I have seen that rate as high as 5%. But, so what, they still flew in and hit their targets and helped win the war. I think articles like this is just another attempt by the media to devide the country.
35 posted on
04/01/2007 12:21:50 PM PDT by
U S Army EOD
(Support your local EOD Detachment)
To: EveningStar
I have had the honor to meet some of these guys. They are a real pleasure to talk to.
To: EveningStar
A proud group who did their jobs and Contributed much. Our thanks to them.
To: EveningStar
I'm sure whatever inaccuracies were out there... were dumped by our substandard, undemanding, politically-correct media.
42 posted on
04/01/2007 12:40:23 PM PDT by
johnny7
("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
To: EveningStar
It would have been impossible for any fighter squadron not to have lost at least one bomber to enemy fire. The men are still heroes.
To: EveningStar
April fools?
Seriously, AAA isn't particularly affected by the escort.
48 posted on
04/01/2007 1:45:51 PM PDT by
BJClinton
(Gore/Nader 2008!)
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