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The Unlikely Frontrunner - Is the GOP in for a Rudy awakening?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 04/09/2007 | Andrew Ferguson

Posted on 03/31/2007 7:55:17 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

The man is an idiot. He talks about the Democrats pushing a collective responsibility. What is heck does he think suing gun manufactures for the collective responsibility of crime committed with a firearm does. He makes me MAD!!!


21 posted on 03/31/2007 10:01:52 PM PDT by therut
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To: neverdem
I ..H.A.T.E.. politicians that try to TRICK ME into voting for them or someone they support..

Bush was the LAST ONE...

22 posted on 03/31/2007 10:10:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Fred just wasn't up to handling Slick politically
***Good points. Fred was an opposing lawyer to Hillary Rodham in the previous impeachment hearings (Nixon's). He goes way back with them, but his file might be one of those FBI files that the Clintoons have been using so effectively. I was disappointed in FT's performance when he was chairman of those Chinagate hearings -- he seemed to lack a killer instinct. I wonder if Shrillery would eat him alive. At any rate, I'm supporting Duncan Hunter during the primaries because I agree with him the most and I think he would be the best president.


23 posted on 03/31/2007 10:18:08 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo
[Fred Thompson] seemed to lack a killer instinct. I wonder if Shrillery would eat him alive.

Maybe she had something on him that cut close to home -- like the old dalliance the Klintonx put their hagfish Larry Flynt to work uncovering, that lay in Rep. Henry Hyde's distant past. And wasn't it Flynt [Clinton] who publicized a couple of other high-profile Republican affairs/divorces? Women all over America have hated Newt Gingrich ever since that story got floated on the 'Rat blogs, that he never contested, about throwing a divorce petition on his wife's sickbed and walking out.

24 posted on 04/01/2007 5:04:30 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: neverdem
Not sure, I heard he was involved in some kind of high-profile beef that got "taken outside". I never knew where the equities lay, all I ever read were tales out of school by partisans of one side or t'other.

My tagline goes back to a much earlier exchange we had on an immigration thread. I assume he'll be back presently -- I never heard he was banned or anything.

25 posted on 04/01/2007 5:07:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Kevmo
I wonder where they get the idea that this coalition with socons has been a "disastrous bluenosery"? It's obvious to many socons that the party turning its back on its most activist wing in favor of becoming democrat lite is the beginning of the end....

Very good question. I mean, did we back over their cat? It's a persistent strain with two groups: neocons and blue-blood Yacht Clubbers.

The neocons, someone pointed out, were disappointed and disillusioned Trotskyites back in the 40's who reacted to Trotsky's assassination by a Stalin goon in Mexico (while he was a guest of the muralist Diego Rivera and his wife Frida Kahlo, if I had that detail right) by turning against sovietism. They eventually migrated over to the Republican Party when Dems began to squish on defense and on supporting Israel after the 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

But neocons remain big-city reformers and socialists at heart, and by their pronouncements they have no more use for Southern whites, whom they regard as Kluxers, than the liberal Jewish lawyers who joined the ACLU and the NAACP so they could work for "colored" rights back in the 20's.

One has the impression that, in spite of the Israel-boosting (in the face of fashionable Leftist Israel-bashing) of the Christian Right, the neocons nevertheless persist in regarding the Religious Right as unwashed Amalekites and priests of Baal. It seems they just don't like or trust them and have decided that no amount of goodwill from the Right is going to persuade them that these Southerners and other Christian conservatives are anything but a Menace.

So I'm interpreting neocon hostility toward Southern conservative Republicans as a social, cultural, and religious aversion to knuckledragging goobers from Boondockia.

The other elite Republican group are the Economic Conservatives (a.k.a. Yacht Club Republicans, Wall Street Republicans, Rockefeller Republicans, Economic Royalists, take your pick) who are the legatees of Lincoln's and the Hamiltonians' victory over the Southern Jeffersonians, who were the Antifederalists and the big supporters of the People's liberty interest, the Bill of Rights, and simultaneously the historical compromise over slavery in 1789 that allowed the Constitution to be ratified and the new Republic born.

The Economic Royalists have bifocal vision: they are Limited Government enthusiasts when it comes to things like social services and workers'-rights, wage-and-hour, etc., legislation. But they are Big Government non-conservatives when the question is whether to spend a lot of money supporting Chiquita Bananas' sunk investments in Nicaragua, or building infrastructure like the Transcontinental Railroad, the Panama Canal, or the NASCO Highway ("NAFTA Highway"). That benefits the whole country, you see.

The Economic Royalists know one thing about the South: Of all the groups and subgroups in America, that group was the only one that ever contested the Yacht Club's privy ownership of the national agenda until the Socialists showed up in 1932. The Southerners threatened their power once, and are therefore Enemy forever.....except on Election Day. At best, Southerners can aspire to being Those Horrible People We Have to Be Nice To, around real Republican Brahmins.

26 posted on 04/01/2007 5:39:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Cicero

I am supporting a candidate, but point out just how flaming liberal Rino Rudy is is not bashing. The truth may hurt, but it still is the truth.


27 posted on 04/01/2007 5:43:14 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Bean Counter; jellybean; SevenofNine
"I'm thinking Fred October, my friends..."


28 posted on 04/01/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: neverdem

Very interesting article, neverdem. I doubt most people will read more than the title, but if they do, they're in for a good read.


29 posted on 04/01/2007 6:00:48 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Fred Thompson's a good man, but he couldn't handle the Clinton lie machine and Slick's attack dog, Richard Ben Veniste, during the Chinagate hearings. He was chairman of the committee, but he somehow couldn't get the witnesses he needed or the material that was out there, to begin the long, arduous job of turning over all the rocks that Clinton had his slugs and termites under. Fred just wasn't up to handling Slick politically, or his strawmen and substitutes (he uses a lot of them). That has to count as a big negative.

"The Clinton lie machine" is exactly right. What many people forget when they look at Hillary is that she's got Bill Clinton and his entire political infrastructure behind her. Bill may be out of politics, but he's like a DNC version of the spectral Obi Wan Kenobi. Dead, perhaps, but able to advise from beyond the grave, from where no enemy can reach him.

A slow, ponderous opponent who's unwilling to slit rhetorical throats in retaliation will find himself overpowered and outmaneuvered by the Clinton apparatus. Bill has all day to worry about what he does best. Political warfare. He won't be distracted by actually having to campaign or run the country at the same time. He'd do it just for the satisfaction of getting in a little payback, and he'll do it very well.

30 posted on 04/01/2007 6:11:55 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: neverdem
Rudy Julie-Annie; "What works in New York doesn't necessarily work in Mississippi or Montana."

Translation into English - The Constitution and the Bill of Rights end at the borders of New York City. Or as POTUS, any dam place I say.

Every activist Rudybot .. at CPAC who supported Giuliani .. did so because of their certainty that when it comes to America's .. enemies, the former mayor will .. "kick butt and take names." And kill them, too, presumably. (ha-ha-ha, a great zinger)
There seems to be some mass psychosis (but thankfully still small in numbers) where the inflicted have this perverse idea that Rambo Rudy will put on his CIC Uniform (sarc), get in his own B-1 Bomber (Rudy 1) and personally bomb the sh*t out of Mecca and kill every Muslim in hand to hand combat.

However, this disease is particularly disturbing since the subject of this psychosis (a Cult of Personality Worship) - Rudy Julie-Annie - was a freaking DRAFT DODGER (Hey Judge, I don't want to go f**kng Vietnam, I scared sh*tless, get me outta this!).

Yep, that's some mental illness that can delude one to think a Draft Dodging Coward is really the second coming of Attila The Hun.

31 posted on 04/01/2007 6:14:20 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for posting. A good, honest article, gives a realistic view of his politics.


32 posted on 04/01/2007 6:16:25 AM PDT by floozy22
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To: monkapotamus

HEY MONK you should photoshop entire Law and Order cast in that photo LOL!


33 posted on 04/01/2007 9:07:59 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Cicero

That is a good posting.


34 posted on 04/01/2007 10:58:10 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Steel Wolf
Bill has all day to worry about what he does best. Political warfare. He won't be distracted by actually having to campaign or run the country at the same time. He'd do it just for the satisfaction of getting in a little payback, and he'll do it very well.

Scary thought ... Bill Clinton able to concentrate all his dark powers on lying and obfuscating.

He's not retired, though, not for a minute. My personal opinion is that he wants Secretary-General of the U.N., and that he has ambitions to turn it into the world-imperial government prefigured in Revelations. My little schema goes like this: Dirtboy gets Hildebeast into the White House; Beastie gets Slick called to the U.N.; then Slick and Beastie do a treaty that makes the U.S. military effectively the enforcement arm of the U.N. and the U.S. its vassal (end of independence and sovereignty). Bill Clinton becomes first President of the World, and a world-historical figure (expunging the stain of his impeachment in "local politics"), and Hillary downgrades U.S. Government and the U.S. Presidency in particular so that no future U.S. President will ever again have the radius of action or the prominence of his predecessors -- in effect, making Bill the Greatest, Bestest President There Ever Ever Was, and pulling up the ladder behind him and Beast. Which is the ego-payoff he's really after. Slick doesn't want to be up on Rushmore: he wants his own Rushmore, one that will look down on the puny Rushmore figures, overshadowing them forever with the greatness of his penis accomplishments.

[Barf alert -- whoops, too late!]

35 posted on 04/01/2007 11:43:52 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: neverdem

Great post. Thank you.


36 posted on 04/01/2007 5:23:09 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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37 posted on 04/01/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I Like Fred!


38 posted on 04/01/2007 7:53:24 PM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: eleni121

Me too. Take a look at the hypothetical vote at FR, if you haven't done so already. Fred is a really big favorite, IIRC 45 - 46 percent, with almost all choices included.


39 posted on 04/01/2007 8:01:03 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

btt


40 posted on 04/01/2007 8:02:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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