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Sailor Seizure 'Inexcusable' [President Bush]
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Posted on 03/31/2007 2:49:00 PM PDT by UKrepublican

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To: UKrepublican

I mean that if the british ship had defended itself initially and not allowed these sailors/marines to be taken, these pictures wouldn't be there..


21 posted on 03/31/2007 3:20:22 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Never argue with an idiot..they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience..)
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To: UKrepublican

If the Iranians had not known that neither they nor mother ship had orders not to fire, they would not have acted so brazenly. Do you not think they have spies?


22 posted on 03/31/2007 3:20:50 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The british ship that was seized was nothing more than a little patrol craft for boarding onto incoming vessels.

The Iranians had several ships, mounted with machine guns.

The moment they'd pulled their pistols out, they'd have all been dead.


23 posted on 03/31/2007 3:24:31 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: RobbyS

Most likely they do.


24 posted on 03/31/2007 3:25:00 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican

You are on a losing battle mate. It seems many here hate Britain more than Iran.


25 posted on 03/31/2007 3:27:12 PM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: UKrepublican

The issue is whether, given the choice, we fight when the capture was made, possibly resulting in some of their deaths. Or, the lack of a will to fight results in an emboldened Iran, and attacks in the future that kill far more people.


26 posted on 03/31/2007 3:27:26 PM PDT by ex-NFO
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To: UKrepublican
The time for tough talk ended months ago when the first evidence surfaced of Iranian involvement in the deaths of Coalition Forces in Iraq.

Iran knows Bush and Blair haven't the stones for more warfare now...

27 posted on 03/31/2007 3:27:47 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: UKrepublican

And your response would have been what?


28 posted on 03/31/2007 3:28:13 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: pleikumud
I've always loved that. No equivocation, no subtlety.
29 posted on 03/31/2007 3:33:15 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: UKrepublican
Do you believe police officers should carry guns?
30 posted on 03/31/2007 3:34:16 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: RobbyS

Well, armed with my little pistol, facing several iranian navy vessels armed with machine guns, I would knowing I would not be harmed, hand myself over to save my life.

Honestly guys, I've been watching the fox news coverage of this, and to be honest, it makes me laugh. This is not like your hostage crisis, its completely different.

The Iranians are not going to harm these guys and they are almost certainly going to release them,

While it is mighty tough to fight to the death, it really isn't worth risking your life for in this paticular case.

That said, that doesn't mean I don't favour getting tough with them, because I damn well do.


31 posted on 03/31/2007 3:35:02 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: AmericaUnited

Absolutely I do.

Why do you ask?


32 posted on 03/31/2007 3:35:35 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: Jack_Macca
It seems many here hate Britain more than Iran.

You're misinterpreting our passionate desire to see a country we love stop groveling and stand up for itself as hatred.

33 posted on 03/31/2007 3:38:36 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: UKrepublican

Just gauging your attitude to having the good guys armed and able to use what they are armed with.


34 posted on 03/31/2007 3:40:11 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: LikeLight

What part is grovelling? Was Pres Bush grovelling to China when he said he was "very sorry" to China even though they took US aircrew as hostages for 13 days?

Did I miss those airstrikes?


35 posted on 03/31/2007 3:42:01 PM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: Jack_Macca
Did I miss those airstrikes?

What did I say about airstrikes?

36 posted on 03/31/2007 3:47:07 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: AmericaUnited

If it were up to me and our navy personel had the weapons available, I'd certainly EXPECT them to fight the Iranians.

Given the specific cirumstances, I cannot blame them.


37 posted on 03/31/2007 3:48:06 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: LikeLight

Well what is your specific criticism?


38 posted on 03/31/2007 3:50:00 PM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: UKrepublican
The Iranians are not going to harm these guys...

I wish I had your level of comfort. What makes you so certain? The Iranians have a long track record.

700 Iranians Protest Against The UK, 15 Captured Sailors

39 posted on 03/31/2007 3:51:59 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: UKrepublican

No one blames soldiers for surrendering. It happens all the time. The problem is that that British authorities were not prepared for this, and evidently are willing to accept the humiliation.


40 posted on 03/31/2007 3:52:07 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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