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To: Pox

I guess you don't let the facts stand in the way of your opinions, even if that will put Hillary into the White House.

You don't care how many conservatives endorse and support him -- even with shaping his approach towards conservatism.


5 posted on 03/29/2007 12:01:51 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: FairOpinion
---"You don't care how many conservatives endorse and support him -- even with shaping his approach towards conservatism."---

Good, then you accept the facts:

1.) Rudy's own team confesses serious problems getting Conservatives on board for the "ground game."

2.) A whole lot of SoCons and Gun Conservatives will work for his defeat (not Hillary's victory, Rudy's defeat) in the General Election if Liberals like yourself are successful in forcing an abhorrent candidate upon Conservatives.

3.) You see Hillary as much worse than Rudy - YOU DO. That does not mean that WE DO. He's not much better than Hillary at ALL, and the damage he would do to the Conservative movement in this country actually makes him the preferred losing candidate in a Rudy vs. Hitlery matchup in 2008 (or should I say Tag-Team instead of matchup?).

4.) You may not care that he lies, flip-flops, and holds staunchly Liberal views. It is probably the reason you support him. But many of us do care.

5.) You will meet with no more success selling Rudy to those of us who FEAR him as the GOP candidate during a General Election than you are having now during the primaries. You may dream that everyone will suddenly see what a stalwart, historic, unwavering Super-Conservative Rudy is (and suddenly see how ALL of our issues don't matter at ALL anymore), and come rushing to his rescue all for the virtue of his Authoritative leadership instead of Hillary, but it WILL NOT HAPPEN.

5.) Conservatives aren't supporting Rudy. That's why every time there is anyone even marginally Conservative who announces support for Rudy, there is a Press Conference, mass of blog postings at Conservative websites, and parades down Madison Avenue with Rudy in a float. "LOOK THERE"S A CONSERVATIVE IN AMERICA SUPPORTING RUDY, WOO-HOO!!!!!

6.) There will be few greater days in the HISTORY of the Conservative movement than the day that Rudy Giuliani is forced to waste his time going to the GOP Convention (remember how he said this?) to endorse the ticket of two Republicans who aren't him in 2008.

7.) Liberals like yourself will never have a candidate Liberal enough for you in the GOP. So why do you purists persist at Free Republic?
16 posted on 03/29/2007 12:15:12 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: FairOpinion

Did the think tank tell him to stop grabbing guns?


39 posted on 03/29/2007 1:30:38 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: FairOpinion

I am not pro Rudy, but I would have to vote for him to keep a democrat out of the WH.


53 posted on 03/29/2007 3:19:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt Romney, are liberals masquerading as conservatives.)
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To: FairOpinion
Gee, last time he ran for Mayor he sought and received endorsed from the far Left Liberal Party of NYC.

If that ain't the definition of a card-carrying Liberal, I don't know what is...

89 posted on 03/29/2007 5:10:09 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: FairOpinion
You don't care how many conservatives endorse and support him -- even with shaping his approach towards conservatism.

I care about who the conservatives are that endorse him and what reason they have for endorsing and supporting him. You should care a lot about these things when a man has a big bag of money and has the potential to attain a position to give out appointments and wield powerful influence. I don't take anything at face value with any candidate running for the most powerful position in the world.

140 posted on 03/29/2007 8:16:37 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: FairOpinion
You don't care how many conservatives endorse and support him -- even with shaping his approach towards conservatism.

Cool, even you now admit he has to change his core principles to appear conservative. I guess that makes you a sucker for believing it.

169 posted on 03/30/2007 4:23:22 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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