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Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone
Market Watch ^ | 7:18 PM ET Mar 28, 2007 | John Dvorak

Posted on 03/29/2007 10:54:25 AM PDT by The_Victor

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To: Red Badger

According to the article, marketing.


21 posted on 03/29/2007 11:11:27 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: The_Victor

Must be a liberal. Wants Apple to just Surrender. Why compete?


22 posted on 03/29/2007 11:12:09 AM PDT by dalight
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To: HEY4QDEMS
... and within seconds the image rotates to right itself.

That can come in handy if you're drunk........

23 posted on 03/29/2007 11:12:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: Red Badger

User interface.


24 posted on 03/29/2007 11:12:47 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: js1138

Apple won't market this to the corporate market


25 posted on 03/29/2007 11:13:26 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Red Badger

Or really annoying if your friend sends you a sideways picture.


26 posted on 03/29/2007 11:13:51 AM PDT by discostu (The fat lady laughs, gentlemen, start your trucks)
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To: The_Victor

David Pogue has used one from what I understand. Maybe Dvorak, who's been wrong about Apple with astonishing consistency for decades, should consider he probably just didn't get one because he's not a very good or influential columnist.


27 posted on 03/29/2007 11:14:12 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: montag813
It LOOKS cool. That's it. Of course it doesn't run Office, or hold customized inventory databases and apps, like my Palm does. And my palm also plays mp3's of course, hundreds of them with my 4GB SD card and pockettunes. But the Palm doesn't look as COOOOL. Yawn. I am so bored with "Apple chic".

Even the most expensive Palm is ~1/2 the cost of the iPhone.

28 posted on 03/29/2007 11:15:20 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: discostu

Just have them send you pictures when they're drunk........


29 posted on 03/29/2007 11:15:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: Uncledave

If they don't try to get it into the corporate market they'll miss a ton of revenue. Almost everyone I know that has an all-in-one device got it from their employer.


30 posted on 03/29/2007 11:15:36 AM PDT by discostu (The fat lady laughs, gentlemen, start your trucks)
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To: discostu

Can their margins really be that low? I understand that the iPhone is supposed to cost $500. That's over double what I paid for my Windows Mobile device almost a year ago, and as far as I can tell mine does everything the iPhone is supposed to do. More, if you count the fact that Windows Mobile is compatible with all the Office/Outlook business apps and has hundreds of third party mobile apps available.

If they're not making one heck of a margin on that, they're doing something wrong.


31 posted on 03/29/2007 11:17:09 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: montag813
If you haven't already seen this, I'm sure you'll appreciate it... pretty much says it all.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif

32 posted on 03/29/2007 11:17:33 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: js1138

"I'm not sure what you mean by recently."

I was really being gracious. It's been more than a while, and I agree, he *has* been wrong on some big issues.


33 posted on 03/29/2007 11:18:38 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: Turbopilot

The margins are pretty low, and with good reason, there's stiff competition. Nothing brings down prices like multiple competing companies, very few possible feature differences and limited overall UI possibility. On tech devices there are really only 3 points of competition: features, ease of use, and price. The way the all-in-one/ uber-cellphone market has shaken out there's almost no competition in features (every device can do pretty much everything, with a few notable exceptions), all the UIs are kind of clunky so there's not much competition there, that leaves price. Apple's habit of sleak interfaces could mean they open up a new avenue of competition, but given how high they're pricing the iPhone I don't think they can win on that alone.


34 posted on 03/29/2007 11:22:30 AM PDT by discostu (The fat lady laughs, gentlemen, start your trucks)
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To: montag813

From what I've heard, it runs OSX and can easily do everything your device can do and then some.


35 posted on 03/29/2007 11:23:41 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: discostu

If it's more expensive than blackberry and palm, and in turn gives you a hipper design and ability to play mp3 and videos, then it's clearly not marketed to corporate.

I'll give Apple the benefit of the doubt that they're attuned to their consumer market and know how to introduce and sell product to them.


36 posted on 03/29/2007 11:27:28 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Sicon

If you liked that, you'll love this
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_unveils_new_product


37 posted on 03/29/2007 11:28:49 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: The_Victor

Can someone please just put wi-fi in a mobile phone, that works as as seemless as the wi-fi as the local cafe? if iPhone does it I'm signing up


38 posted on 03/29/2007 11:30:44 AM PDT by guinness4strength
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To: The_Victor

How much is the iPhone going to cost? The Treo retails for something like $650. The iPhone is $1300?


39 posted on 03/29/2007 11:32:40 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: guinness4strength
wi-fi in a mobile phone, that works as as seemless as the wi-fi as the local cafe

Verizon has it in some markets, but not others. It just depends on what sort of upgrading the carrier has done in the market--but in Indianapolis, for instance, I can plug my Treo into my laptop and use the Treo as a modem and I don't notice much difference in connection speed than I would with, say, a cable modem.

In cities that haven't been upgraded, though, I've noticed that the Internet is quite slow.

40 posted on 03/29/2007 11:36:48 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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