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San Francisco passes plastic-bag ban
Associated Press ^ | 03/28/07

Posted on 03/28/2007 10:08:35 AM PDT by presidio9

City leaders approved a ban on plastic grocery bags after weeks of lobbying on both sides from environmentalists and a supermarket trade group. San Francisco would be the first U.S. city to adopt such a rule if Mayor Gavin Newsom signs the ban as expected.

The law, approved 10-1, requires large markets and drug stores to offer customers bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.

San Francisco supervisors and supporters said that by banning the petroleum-based sacks, blamed for littering streets and choking marine life, the measure would go a long way toward helping the city earn its green stripes.

"Hopefully, other cities and states will follow suit," said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who crafted the ban after trying to get a 15-cent per bag tax passed in 2005.

The 50 grocery stores that would be most affected by the law argued that the ban was not reasonable because plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product. Some said they might offer only paper bags at checkout.

"I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically," said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association.

Newsom supported the measure. The switch is scheduled to take effect in six months for grocery stores and in one year for pharmacies.

Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases.

The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cityoffruitsandnuts; paperorplastic
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1 posted on 03/28/2007 10:08:36 AM PDT by presidio9
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"The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said."


Oh my, such a dilemma!


2 posted on 03/28/2007 10:11:07 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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requires large markets and drug stores to offer customers bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.

So much for reusable plastic bags.

3 posted on 03/28/2007 10:12:18 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Does this include princess Pelosi ?
4 posted on 03/28/2007 10:12:35 AM PDT by Kimmers (Coram Deo)
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SWEET! now they can pick up after their dog with paper! i hope to God that they take the plastic ones out of the parks too. If they leave them they are hypocritocal a$$ hats! ;o)


5 posted on 03/28/2007 10:14:04 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my Hummer with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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""I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically," said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association."

How eloquent. Basiaclly, what Mr. Heylen is smugly saying is that grocers are now free to decide what brand of lubricant they wish to use.


6 posted on 03/28/2007 10:14:31 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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Just do like Sam's. No bags at all.........


7 posted on 03/28/2007 10:16:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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So what happens if I carry a gun in a plastic bag in Frisco?


8 posted on 03/28/2007 10:16:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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"Would you like paper or six days in the slammer?"
9 posted on 03/28/2007 10:17:19 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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It was only a few years ago that they complained that paper bags required cutting down too many trees. Guess people will just have to hire others to carry their grocerys home for them.


10 posted on 03/28/2007 10:17:37 AM PDT by RC2
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Dude, I'm moving to San Fran - no global warming will occur there!


11 posted on 03/28/2007 10:19:15 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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This is exactly the kind of micro-managing crap that hurts the U.S. economy.


12 posted on 03/28/2007 10:19:21 AM PDT by dan1123
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Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases

Global warming! The other day I picked up a pint of ice cream and a tub of cole slaw after I got gas at the convenience store. They asked if I wanted a bag and I declined. As I walked back to the car balancing the cole slaw on top of the ice cream it fell off, hit the ground, popped the lid off, rolled a bit and then fipped upside down. The woman who owns the store saw it, gave me a new tub of cole slaw for free, put it in a paper bag and told me to grip it with both hands.

13 posted on 03/28/2007 10:21:11 AM PDT by palmer
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If I bring my own plastic bags am I in violation of the law?

If supermarkets used paper bags with handles then wouldn't the problem be solved?

14 posted on 03/28/2007 10:22:54 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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"The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said."

I think I can speak for all of us when I say that I often lie awake, turning this conundrum over in my head for hours.

It's as vexing as a Zen koan.

15 posted on 03/28/2007 10:30:46 AM PDT by Constitution Day (What is the sound of one do-gooder fretting?)
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What is the sound of one bag flapping?


16 posted on 03/28/2007 10:35:04 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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I guess the smug level just went up a notch in S.F.


17 posted on 03/28/2007 10:37:32 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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This is exactly the kind of micro-managing crap that hurts the U.S. economy I somewhat agree but when we (San Francisco, then California, now a lot of states and even Paris) outlawed smoking in Restaurants the same was said. Now I think most everyone appreciates no smoke and the economy was certainly not ruined.
18 posted on 03/28/2007 10:40:01 AM PDT by SF Republican
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Many people (including me) reuse plastic bags from stores as trash bags for the various small waste baskets we have. I won't use paper ones in certain settings and if my suburb of SF were ever to fall into step with SF, I'd have to switch to store bought plastic garbage bags. DOH!!!!!


19 posted on 03/28/2007 10:51:51 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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What's next? A "Consume on premises" law?


20 posted on 03/28/2007 10:53:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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