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STILLWELL: "300": Critics Hate It, America Loves It
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/28/7 | Cinnamon Stillwell

Posted on 03/28/2007 7:55:02 AM PDT by SmithL

When it comes to the offerings of Hollywood, rarely does a film resonate strongly with both mainstream America and the largely liberal world of film critics. For the two seem to inhabit different universes, particularly when it comes to depictions of patriotism, war, religion and the age-old struggle between good and evil.

When bad reviews and huge box office numbers coincide, the gulf between critics and audiences is laid bare. Such was the case with "The Passion of the Christ" and "National Treasure," both of which Americans flocked to see even as critics shook their heads in disbelief.

The unprecedented success of the recent film "300" is further evidence of this pattern. While critics have largely panned "300," Americans clearly haven't been listening. The film's opening weekend brought in $70 million, with all 57 of its early IMAX midnight showings selling out, making it the highest-grossing March opening ever and third-highest opening for an R-rated feature. And its box office numbers have remained high ever since.

Based on the graphic novel by Frank Miller (of "Sin City" fame) and directed by Zack Snyder, "300" is a fictional recounting of the famous Battle of Thermopylae in 480 BC. The battle pitted King Leonidas and his bodyguard of 300 Spartans -- aided by the Thespians -- against the vast army of the Persian King Xerxes. Seeking to block the Persian army at a narrow mountain pass until Sparta and the rest of Greece could amass the will and forces to fight, the greatly outnumbered Spartan warriors used their superior fighting skills, bravery and determination to hold the "Hot Gates" to the last man. It was the Spartan sacrifice at Thermopylae...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 300; seenthelight
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To: delphirogatio

If you're a Christian, you may want to read some reviews before seeing it. Here are two:

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0003125.cfm

http://movieguide.org/index.php?s=reviews&id=7399

Apparently there's a good deal of graphic sex and the violence is over the top.

Of course, this is America, and you're free to do what you want to do.


21 posted on 03/28/2007 9:10:57 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

You're raisin' that boy right!

:-)


22 posted on 03/28/2007 9:12:54 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: Theo
The sex isn't that graphic and some of the violence, while gory, was stylized to make it look more like the graphic novel sprung to life.

I saw it twice. Still haven't grown horns and a tail...

23 posted on 03/28/2007 9:14:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Sols

So the absolute dictators of the Persian Empire looking to subjugate new lands by slaughter and rapine were the "good guys" in your view?


24 posted on 03/28/2007 9:16:30 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: SmithL

Saw it. Loved it.


25 posted on 03/28/2007 9:17:18 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: kromike

I'm not saying that the movie had to or even should have been 100% historically accurate.

But on paper, on film, or in history, while you may root for the Spartans because you want them to beat the Persians, you can't call them good guys.


26 posted on 03/28/2007 9:20:28 AM PDT by Sols
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To: Sols

Compared to the Persian invaders looking to enslave Greece? The Spartans were angels...


27 posted on 03/28/2007 9:24:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Sols

Amazing. For all the critisms you make, without Sparta, Greece as we know it would never have come into being, and all those other little details (democracy, etc.) wouldn't either. So easy even a caveman could get it. :)


28 posted on 03/28/2007 9:25:27 AM PDT by Colorado Mike (Lord, help me be the Conservative my enemies think I am.)
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To: Dead Corpse

The point is that neither the historical story of the battle at Thermopylae nor the ficitonal adaptation of it in '300' is about the "age-old struggle between good and evil". There aren't any good guys in this story, just guys who maybe are a smidge less ruthless and bent on forging an empire.


29 posted on 03/28/2007 9:26:46 AM PDT by Sols
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To: Lx

Sin City is pure trash.


30 posted on 03/28/2007 9:28:25 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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To: SmithL
The wife and I went to see it without knowing it was adapted from a Comic book/graphic novel, not out of actual historical events - so naturally we left the theater shaking our heads saying what the heck was that? Now after learning more about the inspiration for the movie I am less critical of it. I still think they could of played down the blood a little. You don't have to slow-down blood flying through the air and then splattering it against the camera lens like it was some form of art.
31 posted on 03/28/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: kromike

Regardless of historical accuracy, anytime the Chronicle renders a poor rating to a movie, it's usually due to its self-loathing anything American and its "socially enlighted" anti-success viepoint. I will find worth watching those movies an enjoyable experience! Otherwise, the Chronicle will heap loads of praise on movies with perverted themes.


32 posted on 03/28/2007 9:32:26 AM PDT by Ranger Warrior
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To: Colorado Mike
That's a hell of an assertation to make and then not support. Sure, they contributed troops to efforts to stop foreign invasions of Greece but they promptly turned around and dominated the other city-states, instituting hegemony over European and Asian Greece. Then they surrendered Asian Greece to Persia to gain their favor.
33 posted on 03/28/2007 9:33:25 AM PDT by Sols
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To: NavyCanDo

The next thing to do is to read Herodotus' version (his Histories) of the battle/events.

You will find may parallels between the two.

Molon Labe!


34 posted on 03/28/2007 9:35:34 AM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Sols; dmz

Not a single poster said "the Spartans were the good guys".

As to the question of WANTING the Spartans to beat the Persians. Who cares, people see what they want to see in movies..

This is a movie based on a COMIC book.

DMZ doesn't believe the liberals are getting their panties in a wad because he cannot google a review which states such. Baloney I say. Read "Sols" posts, know a liberal when you find them. This article itself is stating such, write the author and ask for his sources to support his assertion that the liberals hate it and America loves it.

Or you could search FR, it probably has half a dozen articles/reviews that have been posted here. The critics panned this movie, but the producer is laughing all the way to the bank.


35 posted on 03/28/2007 9:36:18 AM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Dead Corpse
Xerces and Darius (his father) very rarely if ever pillaged a city. They offered a king is land, his religion, customs, and language. In return the king had to offer taxes to Xerces. Now the beauty of this was the the taxes Xerces imposed was lower than the taxes the king imposed on his own people. That's how Xerces was able to garner such a wide empire. Xerces went after Athens because the Greeks were fomenting trouble in Asia Minor.
36 posted on 03/28/2007 9:36:31 AM PDT by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: eleni121
Molon Labe!

34 for posts before someone actually made the point of the entire film......."Come and take them"....;)

37 posted on 03/28/2007 9:38:57 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Theo

With all due respect neither of these two reviews actually "get" the film. Superficial view at best.

The violence is there but it is stylized..not realistic at all...as are the scenes depicting sexuality *apart from the "rape" scene --and as we know the perp gets his just desserts).





38 posted on 03/28/2007 9:41:35 AM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Diplomat

Are you kidding me? Knowing Ancient Greek history and being able to differentiate a non-democratic city-state from an oligarchical one makes you a liberal?

Who woulda thunk?!

"Not a single poster said "the Spartans were the good guys"."

It's what the original article said. Age old battle between good and evil? Come on. And more than one person has said or implie that the Spartans were "free men" and had a democracy, which is absolutely hilarious.

Let me reiterate: this movie has predominantly good reviews. You can see this at rottentomatoes, which collects reviews from reviewers both large and small and from allover the political and apolitical spectrum.


39 posted on 03/28/2007 9:42:14 AM PDT by Sols
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To: ScreamingFist

Well...thanks...but I'm only one of many other freepers who have used that famous Spartan battle cry (lots of other posts besides this thread)


40 posted on 03/28/2007 9:43:46 AM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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