Posted on 03/28/2007 7:29:34 AM PDT by B Knotts
At least Fred Thompson isn't a cross-dressing female impersonator.
It's the Republicans who feel he can win but also who would vote for him while holding their noses the least of any other candidate aka McCain.
Once another candidate that can win appears that is a breath of fresh air, Rudy is SOL.
He has NOT always been a Republican, according to his own mother.
RockinRight wrote: "Imagine a Thompson vs. Gore race. That could be interesting."
Please, Lord. Just grant me this, and I'll never ask for anything else ever again. Amen.
RockinRight wrote: "Imagine a Thompson vs. Gore race. That could be interesting."
Please, Lord. Just grant me this, and I'll never ask for anything else ever again. Amen.
He has ALWAYS been a Republican. He can not run as a democrat. Even if most of his beliefs are just like democrat beliefs.
He supported Dems for statewide races and overwhelmingly appointed Dems while he was in office. The Dems have less to dislike about a Giuliani run than the Republicans do.
Imagine a Thompson vs. Gore race.
That could be interesting.
Yep, a 2-time Vandy grad school flunky (Gore - only because "daddy" pulled strings)
vs
A Vandy law school graduate (Thompson)
But Gore is a Dung Beetle..
Oh geez.
:)
In Gore's case there may well be a vacuum to fill by the time Hillary and Obama tear each other to shreds. In Thompson's case, there will not be for several reasons:
Giuliani's popularity is driven by his electability and crossover appeal, not his posititions on issues;
Giuliani is campaigning like a tireless bulldog. Thompson is campaigning like he expects to be coronated. Conservatives respect hard work;
Thompson cannot raise $100 million. Gore can.
Thompson is nowhere near the heavyweight (other than physically) within his party that Gore is.
In the end you'll find that Thompson's candidacy is a conservative wet dream. It makes them feel nice, but it will accomplish nothing. This race will come down to Giuliani versus McCain, and who wins will depend on whether the majority of social conservatives decide to go to McCain or Giuliani. In the end, I think Giuliani's better chances of success in November 08 will pull him over the top.
> Does anyone have an alternative theory as to why Giuliani would slide 13 points?
I think he has it spot on. I think there are a considerable number of folks like me who feel the Hildebeast must be defeated at (almost)any cost. Giuliani is strong on national security and crime reduction, despite the considerable baggage he carries, and runs strong against the Beast. AT THIS POINT, I am very unsure that any of the announced pubs could defeat Clinton or Gore. But I feel Thompson CAN and he shares Rudy's strong points without the attendant baggage. And, fair or not, he has through his acting created a persona in the public mind that he is tough, thoughtful, able to make tough decisions.
Giuliani has never had much of a chance to survive the early primaries. He is too far from where most GOP primary voters are on too many issues. Were he to somehow win the nomination, he'd split the party and spawn a third party, ensuring a Democrat win.
His early numbers have all been name ID, which can only take him so far.
All conservatives need to know about Hizzoner:
What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican."
--Village Voice, January 24, 1989
End of story.
Ahnold Schwartzenegger moved in and saved him by moving California to January. He will take that handily with the help of Ahnold's machine, and that will give him quite a bit of momentum. The party has set the system up so that no one without $100 milion can win. Thompson knows it. He won't run.
I wonder if Thompson is waiting to make his decision based upon the progress of the McCain and Romney campaigns due to the following reasons:
He is good friends with McCain and if McCain realizes his campaign isn't going anywhere, he would back out and support a Thompson run.
If Romney's campaign also becomes stagnant, he could potentially throw his support and fundrasising behind Thompson as well.
Due to egos, both may not be very likely; however, if either cadidate comes to the realization they cannot beat Giuliani, they may begin to 'campaign' for Thompson's VP nod.
I have to agree unless there's some evidence otherwise. In the 3 weeks between the Rudy at 44 poll and the Rudy at 31 poll, a bull entered his china shop. "Fredinand." :)
True, people are waking up to Giuliani's unconservative positions, but they don't all wake up in such numbers in the same short span of time. 13 points could be a crash in progress.
Did you see Giiuliani with that gavel opening the NASDAQ this morning, solidifying his hold on the money, campaigning with the tireless energy of a tenacious bulldog? What was Thompson doing today? Waiting for the serfs to grovel some more. You are certainly doing it well, I must say.
You know you're right, the Zell Miller comparison is an excellent one!
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