Posted on 03/27/2007 10:53:30 AM PDT by Mount Athos
Hell on Earth? --> Going to Home Depot on the weekend when the NFL isn't playing.
If you truly want to understand, I recommend "A Father Who Keeps His Promises" by Dr Scott Hahn. May God bless you.
Is that a challenge? Shall I become the The Self-Annointed FR Grammar Stalker?
Do your worst.
Because the bible teaches the only way to salavtion and eternal life is believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I am sorry you feel I am judgmental but thems are the facts!
There are exploding lorries on other threads. The purity of American English is in great danger. Good that someone is on the job even if he could be a little more energetic.
I'd rather not read the garbage you read. Thanks for the offer.
I am more worried about the churches, myself.
"2. Some years ago, it declared its belief to be that hell does NOT exist, which means members of this church don't have to worry about this issue.
Hope you/they are not "unpleasantly" surprised postmortem.
Frank"
- I hope so too.
In the area of postmortem punishment, there sure are differnt opinions among church leaders around the world. For instance, The Russian Orthodox Church believes in Hell although it doesn't believe in Purgatory like the Catholics do.
The debate? I missed it, I guess. Who debated? The Pope? The Pope and who?
It is completely irrelevant. "Free Will" in contemporary Catholic teaching is just Pelagianism, anyway and denies the biblical teaching on the depravity of man.
>> The Bible doesn't say that.<<
Indeed it does. Mark 1:4, Acts 18:8, Acts 8:12, Acts 2:41, Acts 8:36, Acts 22:16, Romans 6:3-5, Mark 16:16
In every Biblical reference Belief ALWAYS precedes Baptism.
>> No, there are examples in Acts where entire households are baptized.<<
Youll need to get specific, because each case is to be looked at specifically. The RCC doesnt do that, instead lumps them all together. Scriptural exegesis is not a strong point of the RCC.
If youre referring to Lydia in Acts 16, theres no mention of whether or not she even had kids. Since she was a trader her household more than likely meant her servants who would travel with her.
If youre referring to the jailer in 16:30, note that their response is first believe and be saved then his household is preached to, and they are baptized. it is obvious that the holy spirit worked in his house at that time, and brought salvation to all. Belief first, then baptism. (Its also worthy to note that infants are not mentioned, so we have no way of knowing how old the members of his house were.)
If youre referring to Acts 11:14 its an instruction for the newly saved father to bring the good news to his family. Read verse 15 and as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell upon them. Belief first, then baptism.
>> In Acts 2, St. Peter tells a Jewish audience used to circumcizing babies at 8 days of age, "The promise is to you and to your children". <<
Keep reading: and everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.
God calls, we respond not the other way around.
>> You ought to stick with what the Bible actually says, and not how your Baptist tradition understands it.<<
Balls in your court to scripturally refute my position. I await your response.
Since it's lunchtime, I assume you meant "wurst."
Your belief bears no resemblance to Christian orthodoxy. You're welcome to it regardless, of course. Just thought I'd let you know.
Like everyone else, God is neurotic.
You have way too low a view of the holiness of God, and way to high a view of your own character.
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