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Poll: Thompson Pulls Giuliani Votes
Captain's quarters ^ | March 26, 2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/27/2007 3:51:49 AM PDT by Josh Painter

USA Today and Gallup offer their latest in polling for both parties in the extended presidential primary race, and a couple of changes have raised eyebrows. First, even the rumor of a bid by Fred Thompson has dented Rudy Giuliani's momentum, while John McCain's decline in support appears to have leveled off:

"On the Republican side, former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson shook up the field with his announcement that he would consider getting into the presidential race. Thompson is familiar as the actor who plays District Attorney Arthur Branch on NBC's Law and Order. Chosen by 12% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters, Thompson is third in the Republican field. He trails former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, at 31%, and Arizona Sen. John McCain, at 22%. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is at 8%."

"Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani. In the USA TODAY poll taken March 2-4, Giuliani's standing had been 13 percentage points higher, at 44%. McCain's support had been 2 points lower then."

"What does this mean? Conservatives who have supported Giuliani for his leadership and electability -- and plenty of them have -- would desert Rudy if a credible, consistent conservative entered the race... Thompson['s]... eight years in the Senate have left a more credible sense of consistency and center-right politics than Giuliani brings to the race. And according to the Post's blog The Sleuth, Thompson has begun seriously considering a run -- and has met with GOP powerhouse advisor Ed Gillespie."

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Romney fared poorly in this poll... That has to be disappointing, especially since Hugh Hewitt's political biography and Romney's appearance at CPAC should have set the stage for a significant boost. Has Thompson's potential disrupted Romney's momentum as well? Possibly.

(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; fredthompson; nomination; republican; thompson
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To: Sturm Ruger
Excellent post. As I said, I will not apologize for my support of Rudy. I will admit that if this was 2000, there is no way in the world I would be looking at him as a viable candidate. But September 11th changed me, and how I look at the world. If Fred Thompson impresses me (and I am looking) as much as Rudy does, I will vote for him. Heck, I am thrilled that we could, potentially, have two such great leaders to choose from.

I am pro life, I am a 2nd Amendment voter, I admit, I am more libertarian of the gay issues, but I do believe in family values. Yet I also see a Country that will be taken over by Islamic Terrorists, if we let it. And although I would love to have a day with no more abortions, I want to be able to Thank God on that day, and not praise allah. I need to be able to vote for someone I believe will do everything in their power to fight those Islamofascits and I truly believe Rudy will do that. If I see the same potential in Fred, he may get my support. I just don't see anyone else in the field that would do that AND be electable.

61 posted on 03/27/2007 5:02:09 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: spikeytx86

I LIKE Rudy...he was the best thing for NYC that came along in around 50 years....

....but he is NOT, repeat NOT presidential timber. His methods are facist and anti-individual. NYC at the time needed a facist....and seeing as how the dims had made NYC a cross between Marxism and Facism already, it was no great shakes to have him clean the city in his own inimitable style.

He is not right for America....period. Let him run for either Putzhead Schumers or Shrillaries seat in the Senate...he can only improve the senate in comparison to those two pear-shaped loosers.....

I will not vote for Rudy for either president or NY governor...period...and I will do what I can against him in either of those endeavors.


62 posted on 03/27/2007 5:08:42 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: codercpc
I don't remember any of Ronald Reagan's reruns being eliminated.either before election or after.
63 posted on 03/27/2007 5:09:32 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: Sturm Ruger
John McCain's decline in support appears to have leveled off:

That's only good news if you are polling above 50%. The bottom always provides a leveling off. I'm just amazed that 22% of GOP voters would back the media queen.

64 posted on 03/27/2007 5:09:54 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Vaquero

I love those, thanks much


65 posted on 03/27/2007 5:10:14 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Neville72

Probably the only words that Bob ever uttered that wasn't a bold face lie.


66 posted on 03/27/2007 5:11:06 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: spikeytx86

I believe THIS is the latest national poll. Giuliani leads 31-12, not 27-9. And Gingrich was at 8%, meaning Thompson has 50% more support.


67 posted on 03/27/2007 5:11:29 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Vaquero

ROFL!


68 posted on 03/27/2007 5:13:16 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

15 of the nation's 41 presidents served in the Senate.


If you mean "directly from the senate", TWO presidents were elected out of the Senate, not one.

And Thompson is not IN the Senate today, so he wouldn't count.


69 posted on 03/27/2007 5:14:25 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sturm Ruger
This was said with all the eloquence WE as conservatives should act like, but unfortunately, there will still be those who believe the best way to promote their candidate is to beat down the others, and those that support them.

I was undecided because the field we have now is disappointing with a lot of the flip-flopping views disturbing. The MSM media, the ones attacking Bush at every turn, are busy pushing on the nation the one THEY would like to see run. I have posted in many,many threads about who FDT is and what he stands for as a conservative, which is what we need as a candidate, not a pseudo-conservative, not a panderer, not one that has lost credibility, but a true conservative.

I wanted Condi, but she is not interested, I'd like to see Newt, but he has so much baggage, and the Defeatocrats will never forget what he did to Slick, and they are taking that out on the Bush administration now that they are back in power, and will continue to do so.

What we need and should insist upon is someone who we know we can back to the hilt, not just because he has an R beside his name, not because 'he can beat Hillary', not because we would have no choice but to hold our noses and vote R, but for the simple fact that when we. as conservatives, fully support our candidate, the Defeatocrats lose, BIG.

70 posted on 03/27/2007 5:14:51 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: spikeytx86

That's probably the best post I've ever seen you put up.


71 posted on 03/27/2007 5:15:23 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: hunter112

You left out the republicans, some of them here on FR, who actually DO support abortion rights, and DO think we should regulate guns and allow gays to marry, and who are tired of having their lack of morals challenged by religious nuts.

They were strongly for Rudy.



72 posted on 03/27/2007 5:17:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: hunter112
Fred Thompson is a clay target that cannot win. He has never been tested under fire like Rudy and cannot hold a candle to him.....you folks are so easily missled it amazes me.....

Wait till the media starts "liking" Freddy....will you wake up and realize he's just a plant then....

73 posted on 03/27/2007 5:18:58 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: traditional1

Thompson was an absolute failure on the Glenn Committee, showed no backbone and is best as an actor.


74 posted on 03/27/2007 5:21:45 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; spikeytx86
"Well, it's hard not to discuss Giuiani and his record without trashing him. He sucks, and he's a scumbag, and certainly doesn't deserve a single republican vote. What a friggin horror show!"

In my opinion, the worst part is not so much that Rudy is who he is, but that people here on FR could support someone like Rudy. How can anyone say that they are a conservative and support a liberal? That just blows my mind.

Like Jim Robinson said not too long ago...

"Never in my worst nightmares would I believe Republicans, much less FReepers, would willingly go along with the wholesale slaughter of our helpless unborn generations. Shameful. May God forgive us."

I thought conservatives had principles that we believed in and fought for. Seems anymore we just want to back someone who has an "R" behind their name, who we think has the best chance of winning, never mind that they could be running as a democrat. Even Rudy's mom is quoted as saying "Rudy is no conservative". If his mom gets it, why don't a few people around here get it?
75 posted on 03/27/2007 5:22:54 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

spoken like a true Beast supporter


76 posted on 03/27/2007 5:23:19 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Now here is an OxyMORON. A liberal republican.


77 posted on 03/27/2007 5:24:36 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: codercpc

In 2004, Michael Moore put the movie F-9/11 in theatres during the election, and it had several people in it who were candidates for office.

Another group did a movie about Kerry and tried to put it on TV, and managed to do parts of it -- but it wasnt' stopped because they weren't allowed to show Kerry, it was stopped by pressure FROM Kerry because he didn't like it.

Politicians have been in sitcoms during the time they were running for office, and they appear on entertainment shows like SNL and David Lettermen.

I don't know the technicalities of the law. But it doesn't seem certain to me that it would be a problem.


78 posted on 03/27/2007 5:25:06 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The Wizard

LOL. I want a conservative, you want a liberal and you claim I am supporting "the beast"? Look, maybe in stupidland your post would make sense, but this is the real world, and going ultraliberal does NOT make YOU a conservative.

This is the big leagues, kid. You need more time training back in the minors.


79 posted on 03/27/2007 5:26:51 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: codercpc

If I said that Rudy is almost exactly like current President Bush, but without the morality, would you in general agree or disagree, and if you disagree what do you see in Rudy that you didn't see in Bush right after 9/11?


80 posted on 03/27/2007 5:27:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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