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Poll: Thompson Pulls Giuliani Votes
Captain's quarters ^ | March 26, 2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/27/2007 3:51:49 AM PDT by Josh Painter

USA Today and Gallup offer their latest in polling for both parties in the extended presidential primary race, and a couple of changes have raised eyebrows. First, even the rumor of a bid by Fred Thompson has dented Rudy Giuliani's momentum, while John McCain's decline in support appears to have leveled off:

"On the Republican side, former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson shook up the field with his announcement that he would consider getting into the presidential race. Thompson is familiar as the actor who plays District Attorney Arthur Branch on NBC's Law and Order. Chosen by 12% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters, Thompson is third in the Republican field. He trails former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, at 31%, and Arizona Sen. John McCain, at 22%. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is at 8%."

"Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani. In the USA TODAY poll taken March 2-4, Giuliani's standing had been 13 percentage points higher, at 44%. McCain's support had been 2 points lower then."

"What does this mean? Conservatives who have supported Giuliani for his leadership and electability -- and plenty of them have -- would desert Rudy if a credible, consistent conservative entered the race... Thompson['s]... eight years in the Senate have left a more credible sense of consistency and center-right politics than Giuliani brings to the race. And according to the Post's blog The Sleuth, Thompson has begun seriously considering a run -- and has met with GOP powerhouse advisor Ed Gillespie."

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Romney fared poorly in this poll... That has to be disappointing, especially since Hugh Hewitt's political biography and Romney's appearance at CPAC should have set the stage for a significant boost. Has Thompson's potential disrupted Romney's momentum as well? Possibly.

(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; fredthompson; nomination; republican; thompson
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To: youngjim

LOL...


181 posted on 03/27/2007 11:25:33 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.hartzvictims.org/)
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To: Gop1040
To illustrate, there's the often mentioned Ronald Reagan comparison. Reagan's career went from LaLa Land to Sacramento to Washington.

There is a great book out called "The Education of Ronald Reagan" that focuses on the very important transition period in Reagan's life: when he signed on to be GE's spokesman (GE Theater and later Death Valley Days on Sunday evenings) and ambassador of good will with the GE factories. His Hollywood career was cooling down so he really went to work on this GE assignment. As he would travel all over the country visiting GE plants and the regions surrounding those plants, he was starting to see the real America and to learn the attributes and strengths of capitalism. It was in this time period that he started to reject FDR's New Dealism and to adopt the Hayak, Henry Hazlitt concepts of the economy. He also could see the destructive nature of American unions during this period (he had been the President of Screen Actor's Guild and he had negotiated with the communist leaders who were trying to take over that industry).

These VERY important years evolved into Reagan taking up an active role in the Goldwater campaign and then giving "The Speech" on October 27, 1964. This was the same speech (modified, updated, edited, etc. over the years) that he had been giving on the "mashed potato" circuit for years but it took the country by storm. Two years later: he wins the governors race in California.

THEN, in the interim from his Governor's days to his second run for the presidency in 1980, he was giving his 3 minute radio essays -- that he wrote "in his own hand". He was a one-man think-tank doing this work and all those important conservative principles became emblazoned into his brain. When he stood up to talk about his principles -- he didn't have to search.

So that's the rest of the story... Unfortunately, there is no comparable out there. I just know that Fred isn't the real deal and he hasn't labored at this to have the deeply set principles that a Reagan had. And he's never been an administrator (Governor, President of the Screen Actor's Guild, Mayor, CEO). Yes, I've heard him do some Paul Harvey spots but I wonder who writes those.

BTW, my tag line refers to a speech by GE Executive Lem Boulware who was Reagan's mentor at GE. The speech ("Salvation is not Free") was made before the Harvard Business School graduating class of 1947, I believe, and it is recognized as the seedlings for Reagan's "Time For Choosing Speech" in 1964.

183 posted on 03/27/2007 12:16:00 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: codercpc
"Law and Order" rerun Without "Law and Order" rerun , A&E will go broke. Good point
184 posted on 03/27/2007 2:19:59 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: ejonesie22

This fight is exactally like the dinner table I remember at my youth.

Painful, but required.


185 posted on 03/27/2007 2:26:08 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Jhensy

I really don't care how long you've been here, young'un, I'm saying it's a political conservative board. If you don't subscribe to that part of the governmental philosophy spectrum, what the heck are you doing here?


186 posted on 03/27/2007 2:41:24 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Thanks, Fierce Allegiance, I hadn't seen your post 167 when I replied to that impertinent young man.


187 posted on 03/27/2007 2:42:51 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Thanks for the background information.
188 posted on 03/28/2007 9:34:51 AM PDT by Gop1040
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To: Gop1040

Gop1040: here's a link to the book I'm referring to (by Thomas Evans). Very good read.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0231138601/ref=s9_asin_title_1-hf_favarpcbss_2238_g1/102-0471127-8824159?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1ARTM4ABSHVBHPHJCK8A&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240701&pf_rd_i=507846


189 posted on 03/28/2007 10:27:34 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: Sturm Ruger
"What does this mean? Conservatives who have supported Giuliani for his leadership and electability -- and plenty of them have -- would desert Rudy if a credible, consistent conservative entered the race"

That's me.

Thompson/Daniels 2008
The Tennessee Two
190 posted on 03/28/2007 10:41:54 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Very interesting indeed. I wonder whether the Giuliani supporters realized they needed a candidate with a more obscure record to pursue their goals? Ah wel, I suppose Thompson will eventually get into the race and answer some questions in a debate. Or perhaps he won’t participate in any debates and try to see if conservatives will vote for him because he was on Law and Order...


191 posted on 07/01/2007 4:17:16 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Nextrush
The Establishment wants McCain and maybe Thompson is designed to draw off enough conservative votes to allow McCain to win.

The establishment wants someone who isn't going to rock the boat and allow creeping liberalism to advance. Rudy McRomney will do nicely for them. Apparently, a good number of Rudy supporters are happy with Thompson as well, which makes one wonder.
192 posted on 07/01/2007 4:20:41 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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